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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-25 20:08:39
Zekko said: Phoenix.Elanabelle said: The facts are what they are: marijuana is harmful to the human body..
Do you have any proof to back up these facts? With viable statistics and proved theories?. If not go away. everything is harmful to the body, even oxygen.
it's pretty much a trick concept there lol.
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By Phoenix.Elanabelle 2010-06-25 20:11:05
Phoenix.Darki said: nincompoop again @.@ can anyone define me that word, doubt google has anything on it.
Nincompoop: a fool or simpleton. A silly, foolish, or stupid person.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-06-25 20:11:25
Zekko said: Phoenix.Elanabelle said: The facts are what they are: marijuana is harmful to the human body..
Do you have any proof to back up these facts? With viable statistics and proved theories?. If not go away.
it's all over the internet/books/media <.>
only the 'cool kids' say it isnt harmfull.
Fairy.Spence said: Phoenix.Darki said: nincompoop again @.@ can anyone define me that word, doubt google has anything on it.
Means 'dumbass', 'idiot', something like that
thanks, the word sounds funny though.
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By Carbuncle.Snoochybooch 2010-06-25 20:12:07
Whats going on in here?
Oh man . . .
By Zekko 2010-06-25 20:12:55
Phoenix.Darki said: Zekko said: Phoenix.Elanabelle said: The facts are what they are: marijuana is harmful to the human body..
Do you have any proof to back up these facts? With viable statistics and proved theories?. If not go away.
it's all over the internet/books/media <.>
only the 'cool kids' say it isnt harmfull.
Only the cool kids say all drugs are bad and that you shouldnt do them :(
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-06-25 20:13:29
Carbuncle.Snoochybooch said: Whats going on in here?
Oh man . . .
a neverending argument like abortion, religion, politics.
:D /welcome
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-06-25 20:14:22
Zekko said: Phoenix.Darki said: Zekko said: Phoenix.Elanabelle said: The facts are what they are: marijuana is harmful to the human body..
Do you have any proof to back up these facts? With viable statistics and proved theories?. If not go away.
it's all over the internet/books/media <.>
only the 'cool kids' say it isnt harmfull.
Only the cool kids say all drugs are bad and that you shouldnt do them :(
D: it's nice to know I'm cool now.
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-06-25 20:14:27
Zekko said: Phoenix.Darki said: Zekko said: Phoenix.Elanabelle said: The facts are what they are: marijuana is harmful to the human body..
Do you have any proof to back up these facts? With viable statistics and proved theories?. If not go away.
it's all over the internet/books/media <.>
only the 'cool kids' say it isnt harmfull.
Only the cool kids say all drugs are bad and that you shouldnt do them :(
Marijuana makes you want to eat unhealthy food! Therefore, marijuana is indirectly unhealthy for you!
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By Zekko 2010-06-25 20:15:10
The definitive study of the long-term health effects of marijuana to date was done by Kaiser Permanente. They surveyed the health records of 65,000 patients over a long period of time. They found no significant differences in the health records of pot smokers versus people who did not smoke pot. See http://www.druglibrary.org/crl/aging/sidney-01.html
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By Carbuncle.Snoochybooch 2010-06-25 20:15:38
Phoenix.Darki said: Carbuncle.Snoochybooch said: Whats going on in here?
Oh man . . .
a neverending argument like abortion, religion, politics.
:D /welcome
Orz, I think I'll just watch these never turn out well.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-25 20:15:47
you know what drug is less harmful chemically than weed, lsd.
also funny note: DMT is legal for religious purposes, and that includes ingestion by children in america(it's in a drink called ayuhasca).
crazy ain't it?
i need to become a part of this religion.
By Zekko 2010-06-25 20:15:47
ILU GOOGLE? <3 D:
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-25 20:19:10
Zekko said: The definitive study of the long-term health effects of marijuana to date was done by Kaiser Permanente. They surveyed the health records of 65,000 patients over a long period of time. They found no significant differences in the health records of pot smokers versus people who did not smoke pot. See http://www.druglibrary.org/crl/aging/sidney-01.html
now butane, butane is a killer.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-06-25 20:19:34
Fairy.Spence said: Zekko said: Phoenix.Darki said: Zekko said: Phoenix.Elanabelle said: The facts are what they are: marijuana is harmful to the human body..
Do you have any proof to back up these facts? With viable statistics and proved theories?. If not go away.
it's all over the internet/books/media <.>
only the 'cool kids' say it isnt harmfull.
Only the cool kids say all drugs are bad and that you shouldnt do them :(
Marijuana makes you want to eat unhealthy food! Therefore, marijuana is indirectly unhealthy for you!
such a strong point right there! I agree. :D
Zekko said: The definitive study of the long-term health effects of marijuana to date was done by Kaiser Permanente. They surveyed the health records of 65,000 patients over a long period of time. They found no significant differences in the health records of pot smokers versus people who did not smoke pot. See http://www.druglibrary.org/crl/aging/sidney-01.html
it isn't harmful, because some website says it! yay, it was harmful to me directly, can you beat my opinion/personal experience? No.
weed is bad kidz, says someone who did it.
By Zekko 2010-06-25 20:22:12
Phoenix.Darki said: Fairy.Spence said: Zekko said: Phoenix.Darki said: Zekko said: Phoenix.Elanabelle said: The facts are what they are: marijuana is harmful to the human body..
Do you have any proof to back up these facts? With viable statistics and proved theories?. If not go away.
it's all over the internet/books/media <.>
only the 'cool kids' say it isnt harmfull.
Only the cool kids say all drugs are bad and that you shouldnt do them :(
Marijuana makes you want to eat unhealthy food! Therefore, marijuana is indirectly unhealthy for you!
such a strong point right there! I agree. :D
Zekko said: The definitive study of the long-term health effects of marijuana to date was done by Kaiser Permanente. They surveyed the health records of 65,000 patients over a long period of time. They found no significant differences in the health records of pot smokers versus people who did not smoke pot. See http://www.druglibrary.org/crl/aging/sidney-01.html
it isn't harmful, because some website says it! yay, it was harmful to me directly, can you beat my opinion/personal experience? No.
weed is bad kidz, says someone who did it.
I've been smoking Weed over 5 years now, as i have already mentioned a few pages ago. I'm fine and happy :D Guess it's just you! :P
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-06-25 20:23:45
one day darki will get rich as a political spokesperson when lobbyists of all stripes realize they can get wonderful results
from paying darki to argue the other side of the issue
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-06-25 20:24:06
Zekko said:
I've been smoking Weed over 5 years now, as i have already mentioned a few pages ago. I'm fine and happy :D Guess it's just you! :P
then yep it is me and a couple thousand more books/people/interwebz that agree with my point.
just like a couple thousand potheads/interwebs agree with your point.
guess who wins? Not you D: more sober people on this world than people who are on it, SO YOU LOOSE.
HARHARHARHARHAR.
btw: don't take anything personal, im only having fun. i dont care if you smoke. my opinion is still my opinion, yours is yours.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-06-25 20:25:05
Carbuncle.Sevourn said: one day darki will get rich as a political spokesperson when lobbyists of all stripes realize they can get wonderful results
from paying darki to argue the other side of the issue
thanks! I hope you also get rich from predicting the future someday.
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-06-25 20:25:32
Phoenix.Elanabelle said: Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said: Did he really just say nincompoop? I mean, seriously, he didn't right? I'm high ya?
I'll ask you 2 questions, and then I'll go from there.
What is your political affiliation?
and
What is your religious affiliation?
Answer them before you start saying it has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. I do not argue with 1 type in each of those categories because they are ignorant and hard headed, I'm pretty sure you fit them both too.
I have no political affiliation, and I'm a humanist, better known as an atheist. Sorry if that shatters your stereotyping.
I am far far from ignorant, sir. The facts are what they are: marijuana is harmful to the human body. Is it like swallowing poison or sucking on the tailpipe of a car? No. But it sure as ***is harmful, and it's just not debatable.
Why are you even bothering? Did you bother to visit the webpages I selected for your viewing, nincompoop? I can give you a few dozen more if you're still in denial.
If it's not arguable, why are u arguing it? Consider me a lost cause if you are that die hard and not willing to listen to anything else. Instead of listening to what I have said, you laughed and insulted me while saying "nuh-uh". That shows you are not willing to debate anything.
I skimmed through them, but are they government tested/government funded? If so I'm not inclined to believe ***they say unless it's an independently funded study with no government influence. I also find it ironic you pick the exact opposite I expected you to, though a christian right wing republican would have been an easy guess. I'm sure it wasn't hard to see where I was going.
No one I know that smokes is addicted and all have had to quit because of where they work. How can this be an addictive substance? You and your test do not make any sense, it seems like you are getting ppl who don't want to quit or refuse to, and confusing it with addiction. If I know ppl and am one, that is nto addicted after smoking for 3+ years straight, how can it be addictive? inb4 "nincompoop".
As far as harmfulness goes I already answered that and you ignored it: Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said: weed smokers smoke 1-3 joints a day AT MOST. Cigarette smokers smoke 1-3 packs with like what, 12 or so in them each, a day? They contract any harmful lung effects 30x faster, and they take effect slow, so weed smokers don't really see any smoke effects in their lifetime from the burning smoke in their lungs.
I never said smoke wasnt harmful, it's god damn smoke.. in ur lungs. No cancer effects will come from "normal" weed smokers. All you will see is a slight performance loss in endurance/running. Whoopdedoo?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-25 20:26:32
out of all the drugs i've done in my life weed has to be safest on all fields.
lsd is safe chemically but has a pretty significant mental backlash with some people, not something you'd want to do every day anyway.
lets see, opiates, my love for you is unending, but you are a dangerous beauty my dear opiates.
I need to get some more of my beloved because they synergize with weed so well.
By Zekko 2010-06-25 20:27:09
Phoenix.Darki said: Zekko said:
I've been smoking Weed over 5 years now, as i have already mentioned a few pages ago. I'm fine and happy :D Guess it's just you! :P
then yep it is me and a couple thousand more books/people/interwebz that agree with my point.
just like a couple thousand potheads/interwebs agree with your point.
guess who wins? Not you D: more sober people on this world than people who are on it, SO YOU LOOSE.
HARHARHARHARHAR.
btw: don't take anything personal, im only having fun. i dont care if you smoke. my opinion is still my opinion, yours is yours.
RAWR I'M SO ANGRY!
Nah i kid! Of course we will(and the rest of the world D:) never agree, but i can still have sexytime with you? :3
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By Phoenix.Elanabelle 2010-06-25 20:30:11
Zekko said: Phoenix.Elanabelle said: The facts are what they are: marijuana is harmful to the human body..
Do you have any proof to back up these facts? With viable statistics and proved theories?. If not go away.
LOL, do you really want to go toe-to-toe with the truth?
Sure, jackass, here's the tip of the iceberg for you. I hope you enjoy reading scientific journals:
Marijuana users have a 70% higher incidence of testicular tumor cells, compared to non-users. Cancer 2009;115:1215-1223.
Marijuana smoke exposes users to carbon monoxide, and decreases life expectancy. American Heart Journal, March 2008.
Heavy marijuana use predisposes young persons to develop schizophrenia. Schizophrenia Research 2009.
High concentrations of THC cause schizophrenia. British Journal of Psychiatry December 2009.
Long-term marijuana use can cause infertility. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, February 2006.
Marijuana use is linked to incidence of schizophrenia. Lancet 370 (9584):319–328, 2007.
Marijuana users have more health problems and miss more work days due to respiratory illness than non-users. West J Med 158(6):596–601, 1993.
Happy reading!
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By Asura.Israfel 2010-06-25 20:32:09
I'm with Elana; Weed is addictive and is pretty bad for you (Not as bad as other things though!)
Though I think that how much you are affected depends on the type of person you are and if you're a heavy smoker of said substance.
Myself; I smoked cannabis quite a bit but then stopped because I felt it was affecting me adversely. Not just because of the damage to my lungs (I noticed that my breathing was getting a little messed up), but mentally I felt kinda... detatched in a sense.
I was extremely relaxed haha, but to the point where I became somewhat aloof and it affected my performance on many things, like work and studies and things that I should have cared about and paid more attention to just got kinda brushed to one side, or not given the time needed.
Eventually I'd find myself smoking more and more until I just -had- to stop.
When I'd stopped and got clean, I could see the same things in my friends who had smoked with me, some not quite to severe, but there was one who had become pretty paranoid... we'd try to speak about his addiction, and how weed was affecting him but he denied it a lot sadly x_x. Eventually he gave up though after things slowly got put into perspective for him.
I know it's not the same for everyone, but this is my experience and the experience of my friends who I had smoked with over the years. I think even now I still feel the draw of it, I would love to be able to go back to smoking it socially, like on a friday night with a good group of people and a movie or somesuch, but I'm a grown up now (ahahahaha! yeah right :p) so I have to behave e____e;
Sorry for wall of text / mega-ramble
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-06-25 20:33:22
Zekko said: Phoenix.Darki said: Zekko said:
I've been smoking Weed over 5 years now, as i have already mentioned a few pages ago. I'm fine and happy :D Guess it's just you! :P
then yep it is me and a couple thousand more books/people/interwebz that agree with my point.
just like a couple thousand potheads/interwebs agree with your point.
guess who wins? Not you D: more sober people on this world than people who are on it, SO YOU LOOSE.
HARHARHARHARHAR.
btw: don't take anything personal, im only having fun. i dont care if you smoke. my opinion is still my opinion, yours is yours.
RAWR I'M SO ANGRY!
Nah i kid! Of course we will(and the rest of the world D:) never agree, but i can still have sexytime with you? :3
we agree on one thing, we can have sexy times :D
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-25 20:33:34
PCP can cure Diabetes- Westminster Journal of Physical Health and Fitness, March 1904
your point is?
By Zekko 2010-06-25 20:33:46
Elanabelle said: LOL, do you really want to go toe-to-toe with the truth?
Sure, jackass, here's the tip of the iceberg for you. I hope you enjoy reading scientific journals:
Marijuana users have a 70% higher incidence of testicular tumor cells, compared to non-users. Cancer 2009;115:1215-1223.
Marijuana smoke exposes users to carbon monoxide, and decreases life expectancy. American Heart Journal, March 2008.
Heavy marijuana use predisposes young persons to develop schizophrenia. Schizophrenia Research 2009.
High concentrations of THC cause schizophrenia. British Journal of Psychiatry December 2009.
Long-term marijuana use can cause infertility. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, February 2006.
Marijuana use is linked to incidence of schizophrenia. Lancet 370 (9584):319–328, 2007.
Marijuana users have more health problems and miss more work days due to respiratory illness than non-users. West J Med 158(6):596–601, 1993.
Happy reading!
As Darki said, theres 4365143651436 people proved it's bad for you and theres 5123651366 people that have proved it's fine. I smoke it and i'm ok. If you don't like that fact that other people smoke it.....Then tough ***? lol
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-06-25 20:35:04
I'm under the impression marijuana broke into his house, tied him up, raped his wife and then killed her and cut off his testicles and left him alive. That's the only reason he has all these *** links laying around.
Talk about going above and beyond though. I've trolled a few times, but never as determined as he is. He's coming on a little too strong with the insults to be sincere. I'll still give him a 6/10 though for just being so determined.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-25 20:36:20
wow Zekko, a lot more people have proved that weed is bad for you than it being good for you...hmm.
just teasing, but the bad for you place has like what 14 characters, the fine spot is on the 10 mark
By Zekko 2010-06-25 20:36:48
Ramuh.Vinvv said: wow Zekko, a lot more people have proved that weed is bad for you than it being good for you...hmm.
Oshi-
I've been had!
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By Asura.Israfel 2010-06-25 20:37:10
As an ex smoker, I'd still like to see it legalized. As with everything, the major problems come when the substance is Abused.
But if people can be responsible with it, I see no problem~
I couldn't give a crap whether people want to smoke any type of drug, it is their life to do with as they please.... but what is happening in this photo is just wrong in so many ways!
If you want to take drugs, do so away from your kids and don't take 'joke' photos of your baby with a bong!
I hope the stupid mother who took this photo is going to be closely supervised from now on as her parenting skills are obviously below par.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1289478/Mother-posts-Facebook-photo-11-month-old-bong-smoking-baby.html
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