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 Cerberus.Zandra
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By Cerberus.Zandra 2010-09-24 10:15:19
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Quetzalcoatl.Hellblade said:
All i wanna know is if aikar can make it so it can somehow remap the camera controls to the arrow keys. pretty pretty pls!


THIS ^^
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-09-24 10:21:48
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Honestly, playing with a controller helps out plenty with the camera/movement controls.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-09-24 10:38:40
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playing with a controller is just like playing with a controller on XI takes away all camera problems imo. I've played with a controller since 2004 even when i moved from ps2 to PC.


also i wonder if Aikar is going to even try the full release? that post was from August. I played for 2 minutes and felt the difference between the beta and full release and I'm sure it will keep getting better. graphics aren't everything but i can say the game looks truly amazing.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Hellblade 2010-09-24 16:05:33
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the controller works but its just not my thing if i wanted to use a controller i would buy a console instead
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-09-24 16:18:12
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I'm a bit confused about the need for a Windower.

There are settings in the FFXIV Config to let you play at any windowed resolution you want. You can tab away without any problem. There's even an option to have your controller input (and sound output) go to XIV even if another app has focus, which sounds exactly like what OP wants.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2010-09-24 16:26:31
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Quetzalcoatl.Hellblade said:
the controller works but its just not my thing if i wanted to use a controller i would buy a console instead


im not sure if you can bind keys in game yet but i think they make programmable 3rd Keyboards you can do it with
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By Quetzalcoatl.Hellblade 2010-09-24 17:01:27
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i have a g15 sure i can bind keys but sadly i can't put the camera on the arrow keys where i'm used to
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By Quetzalcoatl.Shirasoma 2010-09-24 17:40:01
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
I'm a bit confused about the need for a Windower.

There are settings in the FFXIV Config to let you play at any windowed resolution you want. You can tab away without any problem. There's even an option to have your controller input (and sound output) go to XIV even if another app has focus, which sounds exactly like what OP wants.

AFAIK, it's just an issue while using "Fullscreen" mode in the config. Any time the game loses focus, through stuff like program pop-ups (Antivirus), UAC prompts, etc, the game will throw a DirectX related error and you have to close the game.

You can run "Windowed" mode in the config matched to your desktop resolution, however the game doesn't make it easy for you to center the game window and hide the borders.


However there's workarounds:

1. Aikar's current workaround supposedly just does that, make it so that while the game is running windowed mode at desktop resolution, it centers the game and removes the borders.
2. ShiftWindow, I haven't tried this but I think it does sort of the opposite of #1, lets you run the game in fullscreen mode in the config, but lets you tab out.Sounds like it needs the game to run windowed mode too, but removes the borders. Not sure if UAC prompts will cause the DirectX error still, I'm guessing it does.
3. That WindowerXIV thing linked earlier, but it doesn't seem available anymore.
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By Phoenix.Oumura 2010-09-24 18:02:59
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Ive posted both links already myself, lol. People need to pay attention. :\ Thanks for putting them in a new post though. Maybe they'll see it. :3

I also hosted a RAR file containing the last WindowerXIV. I can do it again if people still want it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Shirasoma 2010-09-24 18:14:52
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Phoenix.Oumura said:

Ive posted both links already myself, lol. People need to pay attention. :\ Thanks for putting them in a new post though. Maybe they'll see it. :3

I also hosted a RAR file containing the last WindowerXIV. I can do it again if people still want it.

Guilty as charged. I didn't read the first page at all, sorry about that.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-09-24 18:21:24
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Shira: Thanks, I didn't understand the use cases. Specifically, it's for folks who want to run fullscreen but still have "windowed" task functionality.
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By Asura.Meowzma 2010-09-24 18:29:43
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Bismarck.Tgibs said:
i found this thread and I assume we will never see full windower capapbilities for FFXIV. Aikar sums it up as FFXIV is full of FAIL :(
[edit: fixed your link, was annoying me]

Aikar said:
FFXI looks alot better than FFXIV

Obviously lost his marbles then.


Quetzalcoatl.Hellblade said:
All i wanna know is if aikar can make it so it can somehow remap the camera controls to the arrow keys. pretty pretty pls!

Seriously mate, behave. Get a controller. The game was obviously designed with joypads in mind (it's on the Playstation for a start).
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By Quetzalcoatl.Shirasoma 2010-09-24 18:31:49
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I wonder if enough people complain about issues like these, SE will actually take initiative and fix it themselves (properly) this time around. They've already taken some measures so far, it sounds like enough people complained about the lack of hardware mouse that they included it in the retail patched version of the game. Allowing tab-switching in fullscreen mode seems like the next logical step.
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By Midgardsormr.Renala 2010-09-24 18:38:52
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
I'm a bit confused about the need for a Windower.

There are settings in the FFXIV Config to let you play at any windowed resolution you want. You can tab away without any problem. There's even an option to have your controller input (and sound output) go to XIV even if another app has focus, which sounds exactly like what OP wants.

They do? O_O Well now the only thing I'd want windower for is how it always seemed to run smoother o.o;;

I can't try out all these things I have(Questions I mean), so I'm limited to what i read until this god forsaken computer arrives in the mail. Its been almost 2 weeks now, and they already confirmed the payment and something about shipping.. Urg >.<
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-09-24 18:45:16
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The game shouldn't die when you alt-tab out of fullscreen. That's not some universal rule of DirectX coding. It's a bug, unless there's something weird with their event model design, etc. Hopefully they'll just fix it.
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By Ifrit.Showmo 2010-09-24 21:07:48
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Ramuh.Krizz said:
Honestly, playing with a controller helps out plenty with the camera/movement controls.
Were you able to fix the gamepad issue where it wouldn't let you configure any of the buttons?
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By Bismarck.Tgibs 2010-09-24 22:36:37
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Shira: Thanks, I didn't understand the use cases. Specifically, it's for folks who want to run fullscreen but still have "windowed" task functionality.

This ^^

With my piece of crap pc if i tried to tab out of normal fullscreen the game crapped out. With Aikar's current download the game looks like i want it to and i can tab out.
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By Phoenix.Wackatramp 2010-09-24 22:50:25
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Ok, call me retarded but i just dont understand. When you guys play FFXIV in full screen mode, you dont see anything on your desktop (ie: recycling bin, my computer, other random ***, etc.)? Or is it possible to see all these, but not minimize your window to do other ***. I played ffxi on 360 so bear with me.

Anyways, when i play FFXIV i see the recycling bin and ***, not sure if i can minimize my windows as i didnt try, but could that be my full screen due to my monitor size? i have no 3rd party programs and its a brand new pc. thats just what i see as i play.
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By Phoenix.Oumura 2010-09-25 04:35:37
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Ok so, I ran Aikar's Windower for XIV and theres a GLARING problem. The framerate has dropped to nearly half of what it should be, regardless of what I'm doing. I ended up switching back to the WindowerXIV.com program and it runs just fine. Honestly, even with the website gone I'll be using it over Aikar's until something else comes along.

If anyone else could give Aikar's a shot, just to make sure its not a fluke, then reply or PM your results that would be great. For now though I'll be using the community one.
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