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 Siren.Mcclane
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By Siren.Mcclane 2011-09-17 15:36:31
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15% TA is pretty nice for DOT and WS frequency. Maybe I am overplaying this, but I would think that would help out more than 30% more damage when you crit.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-09-17 15:37:13
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well, apoc actually increases your ws frequency, and can still proc on ws....

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By Hellscream08 2011-09-17 15:43:52
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I bet somebody already did the math on how often the triple attack procs from apoc vs the crit rate from SS and I'm being too lazy to read it all lol.

Side note: Just did 2965 on Count Furfur outside abyssea... I love this thing.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-09-17 16:05:08
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Apoc's 15% TA is probably the single best boost you could possibly have in one slot. Its a bigger boost than the 20% crit rate + 10% counter that you get from GH combined, you are already adding critrate to something you have and counter(insert diminishing returns) while TA is fresh and you're getting a big impact.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-09-17 16:40:06
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Apoc's 15% TA is probably the single best boost you could possibly have in one slot.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-09-17 16:48:46
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
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Apoc's 15% TA is probably the single best boost you could possibly have in one slot.
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I know, thats why I carefully worded what I said, when I said 1 one slot, RR offers 30% crit, 30% crit damage, and 50dex, which could add w/e amount of accuracy(or none) and more crit rate, thats 3 slots, hence why RR is a bigger boost over Apoc for monk.

Individually I dont think anyone one of those would win except 50dex perhaps if your accuracy was low and you achieved some ddex from it.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-09-17 17:01:01
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Never heard of an individual buff referred to as a "slot" before. By slot, it sounded more like you meant atma, as you get 3 of those, so each one you choose would be one of your three slots.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-09-17 17:05:13
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
Never heard of an individual buff referred to as a "slot" before. By slot, it sounded more like you meant atma, as you get 3 of those, so each one you choose would be one of your three slots.
Tiger you're always so technical!


*edit* ya it was in response to the poster stating that he didnt need the RR or the insta cast on Apoc and all that was left was the TA bonus while you could get agi+50, 20% crit and 10% counter. I should have said bonus or something, but mainly just illustrating that the one bonus if you will, is the biggest bonus any atma can offer you, and is big enough to of a bonus to be better than 98% of all the bonus' the atmas give barring RR and in some cases A/O.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2011-09-17 17:08:47
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
Never heard of an individual buff referred to as a "slot" before. By slot, it sounded more like you meant atma, as you get 3 of those, so each one you choose would be one of your three slots.
Tiger what do you think about Ire Torque+1/Beir Belt+1 over BB/Thunder gorget? Finally finished up 85 vere last night and i've been toying around a little bit.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-09-17 17:12:29
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Siren.Clinpachi said: »
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: »
Never heard of an individual buff referred to as a "slot" before. By slot, it sounded more like you meant atma, as you get 3 of those, so each one you choose would be one of your three slots.
Tiger what do you think about Ire Torque+1/Beir Belt+1 over BB/Thunder gorget? Finally finished up 85 vere last night and i've been toying around a little bit.
pure damage, yes, if your acc isn't capped to the point where you're wearing full damage gear (aka if you can swap out another slot for more str or something that had acc in it before) and still capped.

If not, use elemental stuffs
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-17 17:13:49
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Rancor/BB with Impetus down, Ire+1/BB if it's up. Unless you're using SS over GH, then use Rancor for both.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-09-17 17:14:48
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Rancor when applicable
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-09-17 20:04:42
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Hellscream08 said: »
Siren.Mcclane said: »
Hellscream08 said: »
Then you'd lose crit damage+30%, and I thought VS was crit-based?

idk what the base crit rate for VS is, as I'm not a mnk, but I would have thought 20% crit rate would have been pretty tasty for dot and ws damage.

That's what I'm saying, SS/RR/GH, and ditch apoc. Still testing it all though.
That isn't what he is saying, he is saying:
RR/GH/Apoc > RR/SS/Apoc

Do not discount Apoc, 15% TA goes a long way.
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By Siren.Hellscream 2011-09-17 20:05:30
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Odin.Hitoseijuro said: »
Hellscream08 said: »
I think I'm going to go with this set for now (inside abyssea, MNK/WAR with RR/GH/SS)
Why are you not using Apoc?

I was testing different combos of gear/atmas, that's why I said RR/GH/SS "for now". I've had vereth for less than a week, and it's like getting a new toy; you want to play around with it a lot at first. I'm starting to lean towards SS/RR/Apoc though. Gonna wait til Monday's update to go after some WS pieces.

Edit: Ah, thanks for the clarification, Thor.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-09-17 20:39:31
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RR/SS/Apoc will give you the most damage, excluding counter damage. But you shouldn't neglect the 10% counter on GH, a lot of damage come from counters.

Personally, anything that would take two Impetus cycles to kill, I go RR/GH/Apoc. Otherwise RR/SS/Apoc.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-09-17 23:02:52
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Siren.Hellscream said: »
I've had vereth for less than a week, and it's like getting a new toy

Vereth or not, should be using Apoc
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By Siren.Hellscream 2011-09-20 01:24:34
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Did I miss something in the update? Rancor Collar's price took a huge dive.
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By Bahamut.Danthebk 2011-09-21 11:50:23
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It's easy to obtain and should have never been priced that high to begin with?
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By Fenrir.Badda 2011-10-05 02:54:29
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My VS ws set, not too fussed about changing the rajas atm.
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By Entourage 2011-10-05 10:26:12
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grats? thats a super bland and expected looking set. why post?
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-10-05 10:29:11
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If your accuracy is capped:

Tantra Tath -> Thew, unless your attack is capped.
Kemas -> +4 STR earring or aesir, unless your attack is capped.
Light Gorget -> Ire +1, or collar when necessary.

If you find yourself in a situation where you need some accuracy I would keep what you have now, and potentially swap a piece out or two for even more accuracy if its absolutely necessary.

There are small things like Beir Belt +1, or Aias bonnet, or an auged shura +1 head, you mentioned the rajas ring also. To be realistic I wouldn't worry about those unless you have the resources or a bunch of gil with nothing else to invest in. At this point you have a very nice VS set.
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By Ragnarok.Akuji 2011-10-05 10:29:46
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Entourage said: »
grats? thats a super bland and expected looking set. why post?

Because it's the little things Ent!
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By Asura.Akamatzu 2011-10-08 02:59:44
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This is the build I'm aiming for. Anything I should note or change?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sensesfail 2011-10-10 10:19:11
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Hey guys, I'm a bit late to the party. I came back a couple months ago and am currently working on Verethragna and am starting to think about VS gear. My question is on head pieces, I see a lot of people have a mix of them with Anwig Salade and/or Aias Bonnet. I can't decide which I want.

Anwig: STR+4/WS Acc+15 and Agi+4/WS DMG +2% (Or is there better augments?)

Maybe Anwig better inside Abyssea and Aias better outside?

I just re-did the Moogle fight so i can choose any augments, But that's when I started second guessing myself.

Any input is appreciated
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-10-10 10:21:09
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18 pages of nothing , including my useless post like a few ones on this thread
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By Bahamut.Alpaka 2011-10-10 10:37:55
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Asura.Akamatzu said: »


This is the build I'm aiming for. Anything I should note or change?

Use Atheling Mantle
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By Asura.Sechs 2011-10-10 10:50:18
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Anybody tested the new STR+5/DA+3% belt? How is it looking compared to Beir Belt+1?
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By Entourage 2011-10-10 12:08:54
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Bahamut.Alpaka said: »
Asura.Akamatzu said: »


This is the build I'm aiming for. Anything I should note or change?

Use Atheling Mantle

Vulcan's Pearl shouldn't be out of reach for you either
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2011-10-10 12:39:18
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Entourage said: »
Bahamut.Alpaka said: »
Asura.Akamatzu said: »


This is the build I'm aiming for. Anything I should note or change?

Use Atheling Mantle

Vulcan's Pearl shouldn't be out of reach for you either
Epona's?
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