Victory Smite Build

For tp use rancor collar with Nomkahpa mittens and thaumas hat.

Hate to be "that guy", but the basic WS/TP set questions have all been answered/discussed pretty thoroughly a few pages back.

*Edit: Obligated to pretend to hate to be that guy, when in truth we'd otherwise just be copy/pasting from previous pages to answer questions. There is a lot of great info within the past 5-6 pages, use it! :)

Then dont be that guy? lol simple, if you hate it :D

So I am shouting for a Cursed Kabuto -1 today, and someone /t me and tell me that Thaumas Hat is the new best head piece for Victory Smite even with augs of STR+3 and WS damage +3% on the Shura Kabuto +1. Anyone else heard this or have thoughts on it?

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/108199-Random-Facts-Thread-Other?p=5231617&viewfull=1#post5231617 - Link to the testing that shows WSD +3 only applies to first hit.

With this info I've also been wondering about wether or not to use Thaumas head.

Read over the last few pages and this is what I've gathered I should aim for. I know I should aim to use Toci's Harness when Impetus is down for all of the following sets. My main question is about Thaumas Hat possibly replacing Shura head since WSD bonus ony applies to first hit.

Shura head +1 has Attack +7, Weaponskill damage +3%

Attack Uncapped


Attack Capped


Accuracy Uncapped

Is shura +1 with the right aug still the best helm?

Thaumas hat.

Thaumas Hat should win like 99% of the time. There is probably a few oddball situations where a shura head with 6str, 7att, WSD +3% may win, but even if you somehow have this super kabuto, just go with Thaumas.

Additionally, I personally think Beir Belt is stupid, Heafoc as well, but mitts don't bother me as much. Wanion is 1 str loss, which may equate to 0 extra WSC, for a swing of +15dex. Smite being a crit based WS, I have never been a fan of -dex pieces.

In your actual attack capped example where you have khepri kecks, I would even use myrmex>haefoc, Rajas>pyrosoul, and Wanion>Beir+1. That's a loss of 6str for 31dex. Especially when you have impetus down, and said you'd be using Toci's, that change may equate up to a 14% increase in crit rate in exchange for that 6str. If you are fighting something you expect to be dDex floored on though either way, just stick with pure STR.

im elvaan so unless i know my target's Dex, i just assume im not capped dDex lol

Best TP set for Monk with Verethragna, including Berk/Impetus up and down builds.

My TP set is pretty ideal -Tp regain earring and Mythic.

I don't know how accurate these are, but these are the tp sets I'd use.

Attack capped, Berserk + Focus/Aggressor + Stalwarts on most Voidwatch.




Attack uncapped (Also better on some if for some reason Focus/Aggressor is down)




Nom. Mitts are quite hard to find, and expensive. According to the spreadsheet Brego/Tantra+2/Thaumas should make decent replacements. Spreadsheet shows Brego works best with VW, Tantra +2 works best when Embrava is on (say N-NI.)

I use spellcast, made a generalised rule that Set 1 is used when Berserk, Attack boost and Focus or Aggressor is on. Set 2 otherwise.

I'd like someone to correct me if these are wrong, I'm reliant wholly on the dps spreadsheet and I don't know how accurate that can be.

Hi!
Recently i've been wondering which neck i should wear for VS, between Justiciar's Torque & Nefarious Collar.
If anyone could advise me. :)

If your attack is not capped, use Justiciar's. If it it, use Nefarious (more specifically, if the mob is lower than Lv. ~105 use Light Gorget when attacked capped and Nefarious when Lv.>105).

My LSmate Elf swears by Wanion Belt for Smite, I haven't seen it mentioned here, has anyone compared it?

more or less equal to beir +1 when attack is capped.

Just out of curiosity, would Thaumas body be worth WSing in for VS? I have Thaumas hat and legs, and just wondering if the added double/triple/quadruple attack would be worth losing 7 str. WSing in it would give +5 str, since I'm already WSing in hat/legs. (I don't actually have Verethragna yet, but I'm working on it.)

If your attack is capped, and impetus isn't up, yes but only barely. But there should be very few times attack is capped and impetus isn't up, since capping attack requires berserk, and you should be stacking berserk and impetus.

So in other words... Brb full-timing full Thaumas? =p If only the feet had str+ as well... But beggars can't be choosers. Thanks for answering my question

What austar was saying was that Toci's is almost always, and tantra +2 is almost almost always better than thaumas if imp is down. If you have Toci's I would not think its worth making a thaumas set, if you don't have Toci's I would use thaumas for like, old einherjar, weaker VW mobs where you have a cor in your party, ect. If imp is up tantra+2.

Edit: I'm sorry in advance if you understood that, and I misinterpreted your response.

What sets are you using Austar? I am getting Thaumas Coat winning on Fodder when attack isn't capped and Impetus is down as well as Attack capped and Impetus down. I may just be using the wrong equip for TP/WS though since I don't personally use Smite and as such my knowledge may be a little off on current sets.

I use Spharai+Shijin on fodder mobs.

Fair enough, what enemy level, stats, buffs, etc. are you sing then if I may inquire? Higher mob level I still have Thaumas winning super slightly in a pretty much wash with Tantra.

Lv 110, 100 VIT, 500 defense for tier 3ish level VW.

Lv 120, 120 VIT, 550 defense for tier 6ish and PW.

Is Thaumas coat acceptable for WS if you don't have toci's or is it still Tantra Cyclas +2? What about if Impetus is down?

Take a look at the 5th post above yours.

Been lookin through the thread for some time, and working on getting stuff in game, and this is what ive come up with, wanted some confirmation.



Earring has Attack+4 and TP Bonus +25, Legs have +5 STR Augmented onto them.

I might beable to get my hands on some Neo-Nyzul stuff soon, but as it stands i dont have any. Thanks in advance for any advice.

Do Tenryu Hakama +1 with Weaponskill dmg +2% augment beat out most items for Victory Smite?

Hakama +1 were already a decent choice depending on your other options.

Compared to Thaumas Kecks if wearing 0 other Thaumas: 8DEX, WSD +2%, 6 storeTP Vs. 1STR, 2acc, 2att

1 other Thaumas: 6DEX, WSD +2%, 6 storeTP Vs. 3STR, 2acc, 2att

2 other Thaumas: 5DEX, WSD +2%, 6 storeTP Vs. 4str, 2acc, 2att

So I would think that even with WSD+ only applying to 1st hit, Hakama should usually beat out Thaumas.

Compared to Khepri Kecks: WSD +2%, 6 storeTP, 12acc, 2att Vs. 4STR, 4DEX

This one is a little tougher because Khepri's Augment could kind of be the deciding factor. Hakama would probably win unless Khepri's DEX puts you in the dDEX sweet spot adding crit rate to the comparison.