Impetus down
Imeptus up
Here's my current sets, just wanting some feedback on these sets.
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Victory smite build
I use rancorous mantle/nefarious collar in both sets, although I use thunder gorget in legion against some of the wtfevasive mobs (wave 2 pony, wave 2 mul harpy, count chocula, etc).
Also potestas + TP bonus/attack moonshade--the crit rate from 100 -> 200 TP on smite is substantial, and I would love to see more TP bonus gear available for Mnk in the future. Your boots are reversed from what seems to be most intuitive imo. I use Kacura+1 while impetus/berserk are up since increased crit rate will capitalize on the boosted crit damage from WS'ing in af3+2 body--furthermore, with impetus/berserk up, you are more likely to be capped attack, so it makes more sense to lose the Thaumas nails (which provide a generous amount of attack) while impetus/berserk are up, and instead use them while impetus/berserk are down to compensate for the lost bonuses from berserk/impetus. I'm kind of speaking in overly generalized terms though, since in reality when attack is capped, you should be aware of it, and should instead be purely stacking WS mods/DA/TA/crit/etc. anyway for WS. In other news, it would appear that the augments for Tenryu Body and Feet were added to BGwiki. So, we now at least know what the added stat is on each piece.
I have listed the augment to the right of each piece's name, and included the base stats of the unaugmented piece below each item. I am in no way responsible for being the primary source of any of this information, and am merely posting the summary of what all of the contributors on the wiki have found. Honor Augments Tenryu Somen +1 AUGMENT = Haste +6~7% DEF:36 STR+9 AGI+9 Accuracy+12 Attack+12 "Subtle Blow"+10 Tenryu Domaru +1 AUGMENT = Double Attack 4~5% (Confirmed that 5% is the HQ, thus NQ is more than likely 4%) DEF:63 STR+9 AGI+9 Accuracy+20 Evasion+10 "Store TP"+8 Tenryu Tekko +1 AUGMENT = Double Attack +1~2% DEF:30 STR+8 AGI+8 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Subtle Blow"+7 Haste+4% Tenryu Hakama +1 AUGMENT = Weapon Skill Damage +2~3% DEF:50 STR+8 DEX+8 AGI+8 Accuracy+12 Attack+12 "Store TP"+6 Tenryu Sune-Ate +1 AUGMENT = Haste +3~4% DEF:28 STR+7 AGI+7 Attack+13 Evasion+8 Enmity+8 Head/Hands/Legs immediately stand out. I can't see the body ousting thaumus, nor do I see the feet ousting the +45 base damage on kick attacks from AF3+2 unless the haste on these feet somehow facilitates a more profitable gear swap elsewhere that I haven't thought of. I have a tough time imagining that could be possible though given the 18% haste between BB/AF3+2 legs, and the haste available on Tenryu head/hands. I'm on the fence between Tenryu legs vs. Khepri legs(Which can also be augmented with WSD+2-3%). As long as you are certain accuracy is capped, the Khepri win, but its becoming more difficult to be certain of this given the evasion of legion mobs, arch-omega, and what I assume will be the case for future mobs. Once you cancel out similar stats (calculated for 1 hander), the comparison between Tenryu+1/Khepri+1/Thaumas ends up being (All accuracy/attack boosts are accounted for from STR/DEX; when STR/DEX landed on an odd number, I rounded down). Thaumas Kecks (2 pieces) HP+40 STR+3 AGI+11, MND+2 Accuracy+9 Attack+3, Evasion+1 Haste+6% (3 pieces) HP+40 STR+6 DEX+3 AGI+14, MND+5 Accuracy+10 Attack+5 Haste+6% Tenryu DEX+6 AGI+8 Accuracy+10, "Store TP"+6, WSD+2~3% Khepri STR+4 DEX+10 Evasion+1 "Subtle Blow"+8, Haste+5% Further removing fluff stats irrelevant to WS shows Thaumas Kecks (2 pieces) STR+3, Accuracy+9 Attack+3 (3 pieces) STR+6, DEX+3, Accuracy+10 Attack+5 Tenryu DEX+6, Accuracy+10, "Store TP"+6, WSD+2~3% Khepri STR+4, DEX+10, "Subtle Blow"+8 Not sure how feasible Thaumus is going to be going forward with the looming lamp nerfs... - so excluding that stuff, what would be the best set for Victory Smite? (Not sure about Tenryu stuff either... I'm mostly regulated to pick up groups for now, LS is dead... so it's basically VW drops or AH gear for now, aside from all the abyssea stuff I already have...
Adding a little to my last question...
If starting with... Vere90/-/-/Potestas Shura+1/Rancor/Brutal/Aesir Tantra+2/Heafoc/Rajas/Epona Atheling/BB/Usukane/Tantra+2 (Other gear I have that may be better than current settings: Melee+2 Gloves, Tantra+2 Gloves, Anguinus Belt, Tantra/Thew Ammo) ...and I have ~3,000,000 gil to spend with prices as such... Prosillo Belt: ~1.9M Rancorous Mantle: ~1.1M Nefarious Collar: ~1.4M Ghillie Earring +1: ~1.5M Kacura Leggings +1: 900k Mustela Gloves: 3M Justiciar's Torque: ~1.1M ...what would provide the largest bang for my buck here, til I have enough I'd grab a TP bonus moonshade/justicar's torque/rancor mantle/kacura leggings first. Then NQ ghille for tp> Prosillio> Mustela> Nefarious> ghille+1 on that list. Also, don't discount nyzul completely. It would take at most 3 wins toget the 3 thaumas pieces you "need" for mnk which should be doable in under a month even given changes.
How do you calculate whether +X attack is better than +X strength for Victory Smite? Obviously assuming in uncapped attack situations.
I've seen it discussed before, but I can't seem to find it atm (a link would be appreciated). I was trying to decide if I should be wearing my Ghillie Earring +1 during Victory Smite. The only strength earring I have atm is a Kemas Earring. Also, I just recently picked up Byakko's Haidate (15 dex) and the abjuration for Shura Haidate (+5 str). I assume Shura is better than Byakko's, right? Current sets: MONK TP MONK WS Sorry couldn't figure out how to post images of the complete set. Gear questions were already answered within the thread. Look through it.
If you don't have the perfect gear, and you're not using VS naked, you probably have a fine working set. If you narrowed down the items you need to perfect your build, buying order won't matter. Peldin said: » I was trying to decide if I should be wearing my Ghillie Earring +1 during Victory Smite. The only strength earring I have atm is a Kemas Earring. Brutal and TP bonus/attack Moonshade. Quote: Gear questions were already answered within the thread. Look through it. If you don't have the perfect gear, and you're not using VS naked, you probably have a fine working set. If you narrowed down the items you need to perfect your build, buying order won't matter. And again, "How do you calculate whether +X attack is better than +X strength for Victory Smite?" That's the question I would like to have answered. Then I wouldn't have to ask a bunch of "which item is better" questions. Quote: Brutal and TP bonus/attack Moonshade. Quote: Copy/paste the Bbcode at the bottom of the page Fenrir.Nightfyre said: » Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: So determining those choices should best be left to personal checking in the field based on where and what you are fighting. I just came back is Kparse still the parser to use? Im looking for someone who is savvy with ffxi math. Was wondering about this the past couple of days.
I seen a post by Jinjo that said Beir+1 would be better than a windbuffet belt when attack is capped (Victory smite). The Wanion Belt would be ideal, however i do not have it atm. I also agree with diasetsu that the -DEX is not very good on a crit hit ws. So i was wondering if Windbuffet belt would beat out Pilaka Belt (6DEX 6STR) during attacked capped situations. I was also wondering if Oneiros Ring (+2 triple attack) would beat a Rajas ring for victory smite mathematically. Never used them personally, but shouldn't motentens spreadsheets be sufficient enough for your comparisons?
Peldin said: » Fenrir.Nightfyre said: » Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: So determining those choices should best be left to personal checking in the field based on where and what you are fighting. I just came back is Kparse still the parser to use? http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Byrth's_WS_Damage_Guide Edit: ffxiah isn't keeping the whole link. You'll have to copy paste the whole thing into a browser. Windbuffet vs Pipilaka: basically tied if you gain no benefit from the dex; if dex gives you crit rate, Pipilaka wins.
Rajas vs Oneiros: Rajas wins. Repeatedly bumping the thread to ask the same question multiple times in a single afternoon: negative karma. I'm in a very similar situation to Francisco. I haven't had the option to get in to Nyzul yet nor have I done anything with Legion.
Anwig is augmented with +4 str/agi, +15 WS accuracy, and +2% WS damage Kokugetsu Haidate is augmented with an additional +3 str Some upgrades I know I can get/buy - moonshade earring, kacura leggings +1, mustela gloves, and nefarious collar/rancorous mantle. I guess what I'm wondering, is if I should go grab an Anguinus Belt for free, or buy a Prosilio Belt for 3 mil. Also I'm really looking for some good leg options that are better than +6 str and +3 accuracy. Thaumas is out of range for me atm. So are Khepri Kecks. I have the Shura Haidate abjuration, but Cursed Haidate haven't been sold on Sylph since last month so I'm kinda giving up on that (plus my synergy is crap right now anyway). Thanks for the help guys. From what I am reading this item set:
If you add "Potestas Bomblet" For Ammo And Use Toci's For Buffs Down is the Best VS Gear set you can strive for? I am asking because I want to set some slightly long term goals in perfecting Mnk Gear sets. Also a link to a good Mnk xlm would be very helpful. I was not able to find it in forums. Thank You (*^.^*) In regards to what Otomis posted, I have all of that except myrmex and belt. What is the best sub for those 2 pieces?
Siren.Lamington said: » Ok so to follow up on these. For back and neck would it be better to swap in nefarious and rancorous? Also, swap the feet for imp up and down? For belt, prosilio until wanion? If you're getting that serious, at least use a Ghillie Earring if not Ghillie Earring +1 over Aesir.
Ya, was just asking about these specific items.
For back and neck would it be better to swap in nefarious and rancorous? Also, swap the feet for imp up and down? For belt, prosilio until wanion? Bahamut.Dionikes said: » Ya, was just asking about these specific items. For back and neck would it be better to swap in nefarious and rancorous? Also, swap the feet for imp up and down? For belt, prosilio until wanion? If Vulcans pearl and TP bonus are not an option.
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: » Bahamut.Dionikes said: » Ya, was just asking about these specific items. For back and neck would it be better to swap in nefarious and rancorous? Also, swap the feet for imp up and down? For belt, prosilio until wanion? Quetzalcoatl.Loneshadow said: » Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: » Bahamut.Dionikes said: » Ya, was just asking about these specific items. For back and neck would it be better to swap in nefarious and rancorous? Also, swap the feet for imp up and down? For belt, prosilio until wanion? |
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