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Atmas for DRK
By volkom 2011-07-01 12:02:37
Asura.Tawhoya said: volkom said: what do you think of Drk/War with caladbolg for abyssea?
Subbing war does close to nothing for drk these days.
well I was thinking that agressor, and use of berserk when last resort was down along with the double attack from /war would be okay with using RR/apoc/SS
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2011-07-01 15:03:47
Ragnarok.Ashman said:
Scorpion Queen is 20 stp. I was thinking of playing with this using SQ AoA and AAO. 4 hit build with ~25% chance to single hit into 100 tp?
If stp caps at some point it would totally piss in my cheerios, but I was thinking of dicking around with this as a shits and giggles sort of thing. yeah STP atmas didnt work on sam after 100 STP dunn if thats just atma but your good with that build tho you are losing alot more than you gain its fun for luls xD
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2011-07-01 15:08:14
volkom said: Asura.Tawhoya said: volkom said: what do you think of Drk/War with caladbolg for abyssea?
Subbing war does close to nothing for drk these days.
well I was thinking that agressor, and use of berserk when last resort was down along with the double attack from /war would be okay with using RR/apoc/SS it isnt worth it i dont think just not enough on the table for /war acc is always caped(not in lolvoidwatch) and the berserk is back seat to hasso when LR is down :/
By volkom 2011-07-01 15:33:11
Ragnarok.Lugat said: volkom said: Asura.Tawhoya said: volkom said: what do you think of Drk/War with caladbolg for abyssea?
Subbing war does close to nothing for drk these days.
well I was thinking that agressor, and use of berserk when last resort was down along with the double attack from /war would be okay with using RR/apoc/SS it isnt worth it i dont think just not enough on the table for /war acc is always caped(not in lolvoidwatch) and the berserk is back seat to hasso when LR is down :/ fair enough lol
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By Phoenix.Pilipinoboi 2011-07-03 02:49:15
Quick question;
I have had my fun with the 1k+ crits on aftermath with Caladbolg on using RR/SS/AoA (This is the beauty of Caladbolg I know, the DoT!) but am naturally unhappy with my 2.5k Average Torcleaver's since my Guillotine's average higher at 2.7k.
I am currently trying to find atmas that focus on "big" number Torcleaver's and am stumped on what to put as my third atma. I currently am thinking of using; Griffon's Claw and Lion atma's.
Any help, input, and constructive criticism is appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2011-07-03 03:17:05
Phoenix.Pilipinoboi said: Quick question;
I have had my fun with the 1k+ crits on aftermath with Caladbolg on using RR/SS/AoA (This is the beauty of Caladbolg I know, the DoT!) but am naturally unhappy with my 2.5k Average Torcleaver's since my Guillotine's average higher at 2.7k.
I am currently trying to find atmas that focus on "big" number Torcleaver's and am stumped on what to put as my third atma. I currently am thinking of using; Griffon's Claw and Lion atma's.
Any help, input, and constructive criticism is appreciated. Thanks in advance! nothing will make it WS like ukko's so if you more than epeen number guy this was the wrong empy
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-07-03 04:18:34
Your Torcleavers shouldnt be dropping below 3k on on fodder mobs, 3k being lowest 3.2-3.5k on average inside abyssea, if you want slightly higher Weaponskill Damage then Griffon's Claw is your best bet (20% WS damage for 2handers).
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-03 09:39:31
Fenrir.Gradd said: Your Torcleavers shouldnt be dropping below 3k on on fodder mobs, 3k being lowest 3.2-3.5k on average inside abyssea, if you want slightly higher Weaponskill Damage then Griffon's Claw is your best bet (20% WS damage for 2handers).
Guess I just suck then. 1300 attack and I can only score 2.6k avrg on a single hit return.
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By Phoenix.Pilipinoboi 2011-07-03 16:00:55
Odin.Zicdeh said: Fenrir.Gradd said: Your Torcleavers shouldnt be dropping below 3k on on fodder mobs, 3k being lowest 3.2-3.5k on average inside abyssea, if you want slightly higher Weaponskill Damage then Griffon's Claw is your best bet (20% WS damage for 2handers).
Guess I just suck then. 1300 attack and I can only score 2.6k avrg on a single hit return.
Please enlighten me and allow me to learn how you break 3k on average. As I previously mentioned, I have already thought of using Griffon's Claw, Atma of the Lion, and perhaps that 1 other Atma that grants WS ACC and ATK on 2 handers. (Name of Atma, I forget atm!)
I know it will nowhere ever be near the average of Ukko's Fury. I just want to have my fun and do higher WS numbers here and there. I speculate without focusing on my ODD aftermath with atma's, I should still do a decent Crit hit dmg with 600 as opposed to my current 1k+ using RR/SS/AoA.
So again, what atma's would you or do combine to hit these bigger numbers?
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By Phoenix.Pilipinoboi 2011-07-03 16:14:26
There we go, I just remembered the Atma's I couldn't remember from earlier! It's a debate between these two as my third atma, perhaps maybe even take out Atma of the Lion and use GC+these two?;
Atma of the Smiting Blow - TP Bonus (Superior) & 2H Weapon Equipped, Weapon Skill Accuracy+ (Superior)
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Atma of the Crushing Cudgel - Accuracy+ (Minor) & 2H Weapon Equipped, Weapon Skill Damage+ (Minor)
I'm leaning more towards Atma of the Smiting Blow than Crushing Cudgel though. =/ What are your opinions?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-03 17:25:01
I think I'd lean more towards Smiting blow, but honestly, I don't think Either helps DRK in any way but the WS itself.
You'd be better off slotting a third atma that helps more than just the WS. Even Atma of the Would-Be King would be better than CrushCudgel or SmiteBlow.
By volkom 2011-07-03 18:15:39
decent WS dmg and lots of dot damage through crit hits...or epeen ws... can't decide
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-07-03 21:08:20
Ive been using Razed Ruins, Apoc, Alpha/Omega with my 90 Caladbolg, very rarely do I ever see Torcleaver drop below 3k on Crap mobs. Its only on NMs that I see bigger drops in my WS numbers.
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By Ragnarok.Beef 2011-07-03 21:19:36
i dont know if returner has posted in this thread, but ask him, he has caladbolg and that mofo hits harrrrd as muthafucka
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-03 21:24:26
Fenrir.Gradd said: Ive been using Razed Ruins, Apoc, Alpha/Omega with my 90 Caladbolg, very rarely do I ever see Torcleaver drop below 3k on Crap mobs. Its only on NMs that I see bigger drops in my WS numbers.
If you're saying 11DMG and 5VIT is going to give around a 500DMG increase.
It might be worthwhile to point out, I never consider a double attack or a triple attack an average. When I talk about my average weapon skill, it's always single-strike. So maybe my median actually is more like 3k with all the 4-5k triple attacks on garbage mobs.
Considering that 3DMG and 5AGI on Kannagi gives +3k DMG, that seems weak though!
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-07-03 21:36:03
Odin.Zicdeh said: Fenrir.Gradd said: Ive been using Razed Ruins, Apoc, Alpha/Omega with my 90 Caladbolg, very rarely do I ever see Torcleaver drop below 3k on Crap mobs. Its only on NMs that I see bigger drops in my WS numbers.
If you're saying 11DMG and 5VIT is going to give around a 500DMG increase.
It might be worthwhile to point out, I never consider a double attack or a triple attack an average. When I talk about my average weapon skill, it's always single-strike. So maybe my median actually is more like 3k with all the 4-5k triple attacks on garbage mobs.
Considering that 3DMG and 5AGI on Kannagi gives +3k DMG, that seems weak though!
Too busy to check the spreadsheet, but a 300~ dmg difference really isn't too far fetched from 11 dmg.
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-07-03 21:42:47
Phoenix.Pilipinoboi said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Fenrir.Gradd said: Your Torcleavers shouldnt be dropping below 3k on on fodder mobs, 3k being lowest 3.2-3.5k on average inside abyssea, if you want slightly higher Weaponskill Damage then Griffon's Claw is your best bet (20% WS damage for 2handers).
Guess I just suck then. 1300 attack and I can only score 2.6k avrg on a single hit return.
Please enlighten me and allow me to learn how you break 3k on average. As I previously mentioned, I have already thought of using Griffon's Claw, Atma of the Lion, and perhaps that 1 other Atma that grants WS ACC and ATK on 2 handers. (Name of Atma, I forget atm!)
I know it will nowhere ever be near the average of Ukko's Fury. I just want to have my fun and do higher WS numbers here and there. I speculate without focusing on my ODD aftermath with atma's, I should still do a decent Crit hit dmg with 600 as opposed to my current 1k+ using RR/SS/AoA.
So again, what atma's would you or do combine to hit these bigger numbers?
Remember though that without RR atma, your crit hit rate won't be nearly as much so even the 600dmg ones (which they should be more like 7-800) won't happen nearly as often to warrant using a different atma. If you're going for overall dmg then RR should be a staple and i honestly believe that AoA is too.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-03 21:58:44
best atmas for drk: war/sam
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-03 22:23:11
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: best atmas for drk: war/sam
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DRK can outparse WAR/SAM on any mob with total physical immunity. You have lost the game good sir.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-03 22:30:50
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-07-03 22:31:28
Odin.Zicdeh said: Pandemonium.Ironguy said: best atmas for drk: war/sam
:D:D:D
DRK can outparse WAR/SAM on any mob with total physical immunity. You have lost the game good sir.
Since atma are buffs or "support" I think he was sayin that DRK's best support are the WAR/SAM cheerleaders
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-03 22:41:15
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-03 22:44:02
Mjollnir wants it's title back.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-03 22:44:42
finland's equivalent begs to differ >:(
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-07-05 04:19:41
If it hasn't been addressed already: How would Atma of the Illuminator fare with RR and Apoc included?
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By Asura.Tawhoya 2011-08-10 20:31:45
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: If it hasn't been addressed already: How would Atma of the Illuminator fare with RR and Apoc included?
Vit minor will only be 10-20 i think, dual wield ... yeah, and att major can be found in many better atma.
The vit+att is a great combo, but they would need to be better than minor / major. And in order for this to be superior to other atma that we use, you would need a third trait like TA or STP+... or Crit hit rate/dmg - Superior...
Just curious as too what Atmas you folks would use for DRK? I got three lunar abyssites so makes things better for me. I was going to go for MM-VV and not sure what for third, triple attack maybe? or an HP+?
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