Put Down That Turkey Sammich Little Girl.....

...and have something healthier, like chicken nuggets.

The nanny state strikes again, and screws it up big time. Why are the feds checking our kids packed lunches for school? Why do they insists they can make better nutritional choices for the vast majority of us and out children? Why do we let them continue to take away our freedoms?

There's a similar thing around where I live too. My parents friends kids have their lunches checked every day (by older pupils, not even the staff >_>) to ensure they're "healthy".

If it was my kid, I'd probably have gone to the headmaster and told them to buy my kid food in future instead of making me buy 2 lots by now..

Again, the worst of us ruin it for everyone else.

What the *** is wrong with people...


isn't this crossing some kind of boundary? Should we not be able to give our own children what we want to eat without being criticized?

I swear I do not want to live in the USA anymore with these gov't retards.

That [+] is for your Mom.

The inspector obviously screwed the pooch on this one. That girls lunch was perfectly healthy.

In fact, I'm going to make me a turkey sandwich right now. I'll have an orange since I'm all out of bananas.

Shits bananas, B A - N A - N A - S

Wow, that's a whole lot of ***. As the mother stated, the girl ate the nuggets and the rest went to waste. Obviously the school made the right choice in changing out her lunch, right? On top of their nutritional plan back lashing, they "could" be charging parents when they do this. Doesn't matter if the price is low. The child already had a lunch packed for her, yet still has to pay for what they believe is more healthy? lol

They messed up on this specific case though. Her meal wasn't too bad, met the guidelines, yet still they swapped it out. I think they're over stepping their boundaries here.

Also, this made me laugh. Principal seems kind of like an idiot. <.< Maybe he needs to learn more about what's going on in his school.

Time to withdraw them from school and start up homeschooling and file suit. Homeschool them until you can go through court and ***.

Only thing I can think of to do anyways.

Well I suppose you could pull your kid out of school just before lunch and take them back just after everyday...

Considering this story comes from some crappy partisan website I would take it with a grain of salt. Just another example of the rightwing propaganda machine taking something out of context to whip up hysteria about our tyrannical musulm terrorist overlord.

Mulsum

Could feed that to the kid.

Way I see it, of course a healthy lunch is better for you than junk food or whatever. However, I'd rather my kids (if I had any) eat a lunch that's not so healthy and be full, than be forced to eat (what is usually) poorly made/disgusting cafeteria food. In which, the child will usually only eat one or two items off the entire tray, and still be hungry throughout the rest of the school day. Thus, causing them to overeat (on what is usually junk food) when they get home. Some kids won't even eat at all during lunch because of the poor selection of cafeteria food most public schools serve, which is much worse than eating something semi-unhealthy.

More on-topic, last I checked, I was the parent of my kid, not some damn school system. I will decide what my kid eats everyday, not some other damn person who thinks they know what is best for my kid.

Stories like this really get under my skin (and I'm not even a parent). Then again, it's the bad parents who let their already "problematic weight" child eat whatever they want that causes things like this to happen. Like Tikal said. . .

Is this the part where we declare this is all Obamas fault and only the panacea that is the GOP can cure us of this government takeover?

Funny, the GOP is all about "freedom" until you bring up:

-Abortion.
-Gay Marriage.
-Separation of Church and State.
-Alternative Religions/Beliefs.
-Teaching evolution in schools.
-Climate Change.

Lets face it, the GOP would sooner give the keys of the country to theocrats and corporations lining their pockets with money to OK legislation like Pizza being a vegetable.

But I guess when potato growers and lobbyists representing the frozen pizza manufacturers pull these sorts of stunts it doesn't count?

This discussion is far more complex than just D or R and I know it, you know it and most anyone who can see past the divisive shitstorm can see it. The problem isn't the nanny state, it's the influence of every lobby under the sun buying off our pols/govt and telling them what to do.

If someone really tossed out a turkey sandwich then these people are morons who are deserving of ridicule but providing a child with a nutritious lunch in some cases is warranted when the kid brings ***to school to eat. Go check what gets put in the lunchboxes of inner-city children and perhaps you'll see why some of those guidelines were put in place to begin with.

Sure, they have a good idea on what to do about unhealthy lunches. They're just going about it wrong. :p

I would flip ***.

sad, but so very true :(


I take back the whole I don't want to live in the USA anymore, I don't want to live in this damned PLANET anymore if this BS keeps going.

Liberals sure are intolerant of people when they don't choose to follow the same ideology. Why not just live and let live?

The point is to say that government rarely ever does better for people that which they can do for themselves. If the government so consistently fails at providing service, why do some insist we keep needing them to provide it?

because there are so many favorable lights you could cast this story in

For every example like this (which is painfully taken out of context) there have to be thousands of cases where children show up with "candy bars and kool-aid" who are provided with an actual lunch. I don't think anyone would argue that something didn't go wrong here, but calling it evidence of consistent failure is a bit much.

And this is exactly it. They just messed up this time. It just so happen to be a REALLY big mistake. I'm sure the program does help some children who's parents are complete morons and don't know how to care for them when they pack their lunch. The whole "my kid" thing kinda bugs me though. If you're giving them absolute garbage to eat, something should be done for the betterment of the child, honestly. Like look at it this way. If you're feeding your dog nothing but human food, it's going to get very ill and something should be done to curb your habit of doing that to the poor animal. They don't know any better, so they eat what you provide for them. Honestly a 4 year old is no different. They don't fully understand nutrition or anything of the sort. Sure they know what tastes good, but damned if they fully understand what is healthy for them...

That's ridiculous....my kid has yogurt and milk for lunch except Tuesdays he gets chicken nuggets...he's never really hungry during the day and if he is he has a snack in the morning or afternoon and his water. He eats more at home b/c he gets more distracted at lunch with his friends...

That lunch was far better than anything my kid eats at school...

Intolerant of what? I clearly pointed out a hypocritical stance within the Republican party. They constantly exclaim to be the party that wants us all to be free of government intervention and then turn around and limit freedoms on specific topics they don't agree with using the government.

Abortion is a choice each woman should be able to make for herself. Why not live and let live on that? Oh right because the party can't be bothered.

Intolerant? That's the keyword of today's Republican party.

Anyway, sidebar aside the point of these programs are to provide for children who by no fault of their own are born into low-income families who often don't know how to feed their kids. We have an obesity issue in this country so we obviously aren't "doing it right".

If I were a Republican I'd suggest education and more healthy school lunch programs instead of these heavy-handed lunch inspections I personally don't agree with but is that the Republican response?

Nope. It's to basically ignore the issue, allow the diabetes rate to continue racing upwards and let parents do whatever the hell they want with their kids. One can't help but remember Sarah Palins counter to Michelle Obamas quest to get kids active and eating healthier. COOKIES FOR YOU ALL! /facepalm.

And for the record, when I was going to school, grades like 3-11 I ate the school's cafeteria lunch. Idk if standards in NY were high or w/e, but it was always fine by me when I was growing up. I enjoyed it.

Obviously the idea of insuring that kids eat as healthy as possible is a good one, and I am sure this law was enacted with the idea that the kids with a Snickers and a Coke for lunch will be better taken care of. But if the state wants to control what the kids eat, it seems a lot easier to just say "everyone eats the cafeteria food, barring specific medical reason not to."

But really, the execution of it in this was pretty terrible. Sometimes it's just easier for people to follow the letter of the law and totally miss the spirit. But, hey, it's out in the open now, and hopefully this drives them to fix it.

Personally, though, I think it's ridiculous. Maybe... MAYBE... if certain kids were seen to constantly be eating poor quality lunches, the matter would be addressed with that family alone. And, not only does it seem like a gigantic waste of time, "feed your kids better or we'll embarrass them" doesn't seem all that great of a way to do business, anyway.

Finally.... when I was a kid, my Mom always made me a pretty standard lunch - fairly good for me, like the one the kid in this story had. But I always threw them away and bought cafeteria food because it was things like chicken nuggets and pizza, etc.

What part of a school lunch program gone awry made it necessary for you to tear into the GOP party? No one brought up politics, no one brought up Obama. I see this in like 50% of your threads. Get the chip off your shoulder. This forum isn't highly saturated with starch conservatives. Actually, it's quite the opposite. No need to go on rabbit trails. We can both agree this school system was in the wrong and parents that are trying to good for their children should be left to their own devices without "big brother" (in any sense whether govt school or otherwise) intervening.


Beat me to the punch after reading ><

School would be dealing with a whole lot of ***if they did this to my kid.

OP makes a thread about a situation involving some school employees making a dumb decision we can all agree makes not one lick of sense then goes into "big government" "freedoms being taken away" "why does the govt think they can make better decisions than me". I wonder what that sounds like Daemun? Something, something talking points.

Nausi then fails to acknowledge that the reason this system is in place is to assist children of low income parents / parents who are completely oblivious to the dangers of giving your children ***to eat daily. Instead of suggesting solutions to the obvious problems of having bags inspected he immediately went for the canned right-wing response and in turn I pointed out the contradiction in that assessment.

Pretty fair if you ask me. I agreed with him on the fact that this case makes no sense but the kneejerk "why does the govt keep interfering" schtick completely factors out reality for talking points.

By the way, how do you determine if a parent is doing good? What would the criteria be? Are you going to open every schoolbag and examine the contents? What if I the parent feels that an Easy Mac and a large soda constitutes as a healthy lunch? What then?

The entire republican vs. democrat argument is outside the realm of things I give a darn about, so my response is only to the child having her lunch taken and being given a school lunch.

This is absolutely not right. Even if the kid did only bring soda and a candy bar, what business is it of the school's? A school is in place to educate children, not to raise them. And even if it's not healthy in the slightest for a kid to only bring candy or junk food (which was certainly not the case here!) the school has no right to go through the child's property, decide for the parents what is ok and what isn't, and force the child to eat a school lunch. Particularly since school lunches are none too healthy, either. At least, they weren't when I was in school. Fake cardboard pizza every day, whoo!

No one is arguing that kids should eat healthier or that there's an obesity/diabetes problem in America. But it is absolutely not the responsibility nor the right of the school to go through the kids' things and dictate meals to them.

Except she only ate 3 chicken nuggets. That doesn't produce much ***at all.


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