Which Relic Should I Make?: A Guide
Which Relic Should I Make?: A Guide
This thread made me sad to have made Gungnir...
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Quite possibly a stupid question...
Why Yoichi in Legion over Koga?
Why Yoichi in Legion over Koga?
Odin.Registry said: »
Quite possibly a stupid question...
Why Yoichi in Legion over Koga?
Why Yoichi in Legion over Koga?
Cause yoichi is cheaper
I guess you're out of TP moves range when you use a bow, less MP wasted for healers, constant damages etc...
Cerberus.Detzu said: »
I guess you're out of TP moves range when you use a bow, less MP wasted for healers, constant damages etc...
Anni rng does ranged infinitely better than Sam, though there is something to be said for versatility.
Odin.Registry said: »
Quite possibly a stupid question...
Why Yoichi in Legion over Koga?
Why Yoichi in Legion over Koga?
Cause mainting am3 in legion can be annoying, I don't have a mythic, but everyone I know with a mythic complain about it.
Namas is a better ws than shoha when used propperly, you can WS with mob being 22 from you(while thf pulling, IC running away etc) 2 mob in there a weak to piercing (both harpy).
You can tp in amano and have no acc issue in an hybrid set.
Although I don't know how much of a factor this is, ranged attacks also have less lvl correction than melee attacks so even at uncapped ratio on higher level mobs, it has a slight advantage.
Not needing to worry about Overwhelm on the Ironclad is nice as well.
Edit: Well. All the mobs, really!
Edit: Well. All the mobs, really!
It's a niche use, but pretty cool to see amano/yoichi actually excel at something.
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Relic and empy staves? Dafuq
Honestly, if I were a pretty serious Summoner, I'd concider Claustrum(assuming I'd make a melee set, which I probably would) :P
to make use of either you'd "need" a melee set the refresh conversion to mp for just 100 tp is horrible 8mp ever tic for 20 seconds...or 400 mp for every myrkr. I'm still going over any factors but by the looks of it you're making claustrum possibly for the 2.5 perma aftermath chance versus hvergelmir's aftermath. But I haven't really done any sort of math to assume that claustrum is better in that respect. They both end up with the same base damage and delay at 99 but claustrum gets base damage at easier tiers sooner than hvergelmir.
You could also spirit taker for more mp than Gate of Tartarus.
That's kind of a short and skinny but i'll put something together tomorrow also.
Yeah, but GoT actually does damage.
So the best DD staff is a waste of currency, but the best DD club isn't a waste?
There's some bias in the description of these weapons!
There's some bias in the description of these weapons!
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Whm with club is boss, blm/smn with staff is ***.
From the way I see it, they're both very similar in usefulness. Which is very little other than having fun just dicking around
Effectiveness though isn't the same!
Staff gives 8/tic refresh, what does Mjollnir do?
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Awesome attack with Realmrazer! Plus you can dualwield a kclub for tp spammage.
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Plus you can dualwield a kclub for tp spammage.
And a whm sacrificing sub job for anything other than "having fun just dicking around" seems detrimental.
Siren.Mcclane said: »
So the best DD staff is a waste of currency, but the best DD club isn't a waste?
There's some bias in the description of these weapons!
There's some bias in the description of these weapons!
There are situations where WHM is a good choice for content and going WHM/NIN or WHM/DNC with Mjollnir / Kraken Club would be the best way to handle the situation.
There are no situations where whipping out a Claustrum is optimal because content where SMN or BLM are good choices tend to be extremely disfavorable to SMN or BLM meleeing.
That, and the only way Mjollnir really functions is by offhanding a Kraken club. I suppose Claustrum would be good if you could offhand a Kclub with it.
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Why do you care about the subjob? If you're meleeing on mage means that it doesn't matter regardless.
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Spamming Mystic Boon with Mjollnir is also orders of magnitude more potent than the refresh from Claustrum.
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If it doesn't matter, then why can't a BLM/SMN melee against things that don't matter either? I'm not saying Claustrum is a must have, it's one of the poorer choices, but if someone wants to make one because they want to *** around, it's certainly not a waste of currency.
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Why do you care about the subjob? If you're meleeing on mage means that it doesn't matter regardless.
Didn't say it can't, but it's considerably less effective than mjollnir/kclub.
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Except that WHM melee has more applications than SMN melee ever could.
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OK, fine, but one of them has to be the waste of currency, so I'll get a new name for Claustrum and sux2bu Gungnir.
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Didn't say it can't, but it's considerably less effective than mjollnir/kclub.
(Sorry to all Sams out there, I needed an example, Sam is still a good dd, blah blah blah)
That's a very stupid comparison.
How so? One is being labeled a waste of currency because it is not as good as a weapon on another job. Seems very similar.
Claustrum is still the best DD weapon for the jobs that can equip it.
Claustrum is still the best DD weapon for the jobs that can equip it.
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