IiPunch - Monk Guide

Lmao, so just to understand.... You wouldn't invite a monk hypothetically because.... They never ask to join, and if they did, you'd ask to see their gear... Tell me, why?

Also, you never invited my Monk to anything because I just started playing it two weeks ago, haven't finished spharai completely, and haven't done SR in over six months.

If I didn't know them at all I would like to know what weapon they have at the bare minimum. You invite people to PuG randomly?

Sorry, just remembered that was Sechs and he was using Godhands. Are you on Asura?

So exactly why are you contributing to this discussion in the first place (which is about MNK, current meta, and kill speed) if you do not care about Kill speed and overall Job dps? You of all people would have no reason to not include a monk. And if your only reason for not inviting a monk is because "None are available", then you should be pro-monk in any scenario, since kill speed doesn't matter. Right?

Ok, I wasn't expecting to wake up to all this. I mean, I thought there'd be something but still.

Here goes. I would have done a few things differently in hindsight.

• I should have run Scoreboard, that was a mistake I admit.

• I should have presented three clips, adding one with MNK and a WAR/DRK/SAM at their Subtle Blow cap to show how they can work side-by-side.

• My reactions could have been better on RUN but this was kind of demonstrating my point about TP feed and absorb mechanics. That being, mistakes happen to the best of us and that this approach reduces that chance they will.

Also, I have absolutely no beef with Sae. I didn't go out of my way to make the video just to spite him. Thought I should clarify that tid-bit.

What is basically anyone contributing here, really? That will change anything. Rua provided some context but it is not logical to assume 1 kill with each type of DD means a great deal statistically.
I posted in response to Rua's video to say that it's nice and all, but nothing will change. That is all I wanted to say. Not that I think it is a good thing that nothing will change, just that it is the reality of the situation. The fact that you got butt hurt and raged is why I ended up posting so much.

Honestly, rather than *** at me on FFXIAH you can do a Kin with me on MNK if/when you're geared.

I swear the jokes write themselves.

Yeah, now ask yourself: What are you really contributing here? Get geared and show me what you have, I'll bring WHM and support.

I'm not about to prove anything to you. Ruau just posted a video and it didn't prove anything for you. Troll, get outta here with your web of lies that you can't even get straight.

1 video of one setup and 1 video of another set up is massive amounts of evidence now? Rua has even said his performance on RUN could have been better.

Are we really here now claiming only MNK NIN can kill in 4min 40sec? (I'm not the one bothered by kill speed but you are, so I will discuss on terms which you care about)

Funny that you pussy out when given the opportunity to put your words into action. Keep trolling.

Why do you keep talking about your preference?

If you are kind of person who invite any DD that send tell when you shout, then the post wasn't direct toward you.

If you are kind of person who would shout for WAR SAM DRK and reject any other DD because they are weaker, then the video is aim to prove MNK could kill faster than above jobs because of mechanics.

It's either 1 or 2, I don't understand why there's even page and pages of argument about DD job choices on Kin.

Also 5 min with war war(one of the best DD in game) is still slower than 4:40 MNK NIN (2 of the worst DD in game), so the point still stands. NM Designs can screw DD hierarchy completely.



it's all about evidence, not about assumptions.

If there's another video showing 2 DD killing Kin in 2 min then sure, they are the best DD on Kin.

Until then, safe to assume MNK is faster choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqFYcJL5ibc

nvm seems to be sped up if you watch it lol

you are aware that video is sped up right? but it's a lot easier to do MNK + MNK.

Yeah I realised that when I got into the video more, edited post already haha. Not normal Ejin posts sped up videos though :S

dude can't keep his lies straight. 100% of his posts have been straight up false, completely unrelated or off-main-topic, or just flat out lies.

Even easier to do it with RNGs or SMNs. Not a hard fight though.

Why are you so impressed by something which isn't going to change anything for anyone, anyway? There has to be more important examples than this. Right now Dynamis is the one event where time matters (more time = kill more stuff = more loot) and where deaths obviously slow down the same thing.

i still don't see why if 3 minutes isn't a big enough deal on Kin to matter, why isn't it a problem on anything else, besides a select few fights?

You were offered the chance to put your money where your mouth is so why not do it rather than keep bitching and crying? 100% of your posts have been retarded.

I'm not impressed by it at all. The one thing I am impressed by is how stupid a lot of you people are being. "MNK can't kill fast enough." and when a video pops up faster than another strat, "Kill speed doesn't matter anyways because it's an easy fight." So which is it? If kill speed doesn't matter here, why does it matter on most things, and why not go for the less chance at failure?

That video has roughly 3:40 clear time if you watch the clock. But he popped MS at one point, so it can only prove WAR DRK kills faster with SP.

If you run through multiple Kin in 1 go SP may not be available, so the argument is still not valid.

Kin isn't much of a risk of killing anyone and you get there with 25+mins left easily. Keep Sarsaok or Old Shuck or any T2 or T3 alive for longer than you absolutely need to and the chances of dying increase exponentially. I think they are a good example of where time is more crucial than Kin, would you not agree?
Again, fairly easy content but no less relevant than Kin. Arguably moreso (aeonics).

"Monk is ***."
"It can't do anything any other jobs can do better."
"It slows down the fights."
"The only reason to bring a monk is because you want to."

"Hey, here's a fight Monk can do better, with faster times!"

"Yeah, but it's only 3 minutes. Who cares? You still have 30+ left over, this changes nothing"

I honestly think you have a reading disability of some sort. LIterally all of your posts have been ***, lol.

it's almost like i mentioned there are situations where kill speed does matter.

You've already acknowledged and posted that I have never said anything about MNK not being able to kill fast enough so I am not sure why you are now again addressing this at me. The only post I made was regarding ease of gearing hybrid DD/TP and the main reason is explained in plain English above. I take WAR or SAM myself so adding 1 Subtle Blow focused job is not worth it.
Please see my previous post for what I think is a relevant example.

I think you're mentally disabled and have the mind of a child, but I'd rather stay on topic. You once again posted pure lies and *** because nowhere have I ever made any of the statements which you listed.
If you think I add nothing, please block me and you will not see my posts. If you do not do this despite claiming all I post is ***, and you continue to spend your life replying to me then there is further justification for your mental disability and personality disorders.

uh, no i didn't. you said:


which is funny, since that's the biggest hate on MNK, it's damage.

I see no instance of this at all. All I see from you is that you prefer SAM or WAR, and no mention of a hybrid set anywhere.

And again, I said most fights. There are fights where killing something faster is better, nobody is disagreeing there.

I'm not sure if there is a language barrier here or something. I said that I have never said MNK is not able to kill fast enough. Saying that kill speed is irrelevant is not saying MNK can not kill fast enough. It is in support of the use of MNKs, if anything. Honestly do not know how you are misunderstanding what I have said. Quote me as saying MNK kills slower somewhere.

It's a few pages back (like 6) and was regarding SAM and WAR vs DRG, not even MNK. The instance I refer to is that I play SAM and WAR, it is in a post a page back so I am not sure how you missed it.

if you are aiming for more loot in dyna, you would BLU + THF burn it. So the argument about WAR DRK SAM isn't valid here either.

Ok, so you are pro-MNK. So does everyone else that you are arguing with. Then why are you here arguing 5 pages of stuff if you are pro-MNK?


you keep talking about your preferences, but like 100th time, your preference doesn't matter. Not one single poster here tell you to toss your WAR SAM gears to play MNK. Nobody care if you clear content with WAR or SAM or MNK or melee WHM. Why do you keep posting about what you like over and over again?

can we just get a forumwide ban for this guy already, he seriously offers nothing of value and i'm not sure he even believes what he's trying to say at this point