Will WoW Classic Affect FFXI Playability?

... the fact that they're never honest about anything lol. Sure they'll tell you AFTER the fact.

Lying = money. Truth = *** you I quit

They said this before RoV and all the related content, but there was more. Didn't they say the same after Reis/Omem/Aeonics was all done, and then we've got Dyna D (arguably a major update/addition)?

Also, to be clear, I am not saying they are intentionally blowing smoke up our *** to keep us playing/paying (though they could be). I think with Lionheart Tactics that they were genuine abou adding new content at first... then things changed and they ended up not bothering and just let it idle and it's still making money. Anything could happen in the next 3 years that stalls the current plans.

There is no high-tier version of Bahamut fight with 119 drops yet either?

I mean no company usually wants to end its cashcow. They always want to add more. To do more. To make more.

At some point... they just don't. And they "ghost".

Also, yeah, Bahamut/Storms of Fate still untapped resources. There is a plethora of things to redo/reskin/rehash/recolor/?

XI isn't exactly their cash cow anymore. They had to reduce the size of the dev team just to continue operations (and keep the game profitable). As sad as it is, XIV is their cash cow now.

The difference being they've got to keep putting effort into 14. they've got you on 11 for life already without having to do anything anymore.

20,000 active accounts at $20 a month average per account would be $4.8m/year, and those values are both probably lower than actual. I don't know what costs they can claim to have that touch that kind of income. I'd love to know the real costs of maintaining and running the servers - the minimum $ they'd have to make to let the game run itself without adding any more new content.

You'll find out soon lol. Numbers definitely slipping. Down ~500 active users per server in two months. 85k from 95k

JULY
Asura 14,179
Odin 9,335
Bahamut 6,901
Phoenix 5,389
Shiva 5,255
Ragnarok 4,883
Fenrir 4,757
Siren 4,530
Bismarck 4,327
Carbuncle 4,267
Lakshmi 3,972
Sylph 3,866
Quetzalcoatl 3,790
Leviathan 3,593
Valefor 3,561
Cerberus 3,192

They are characters, not accounts? Can be more than 1 character per account.

Actively selling things on the AH accounts

While people may have 15 mules, most don't use them to ah things. so you don't see 16 active. and you stay active 2 months after last transaction.

Ex; while I have... 40 some odd characters only about 12 have bought/sold/are counted

That's assuming their line of "profitability" is to be above breaking even. They probably look at FFXI not as their cash cow, but more likely it needs to keep bringing in XXX dollars to justify server space, resources and staff. If it were to merely break even, they'd likely dump it like a bad ex.

I wasn't saying that is their intention - I was just wondering that as a side issue.

I used 20k accounts for the 80k active characters as a low ball. I would agree the number of accounts is probably higher but unlikely as high as 1 account : 2 active characters (40k accounts) in my opinion.

I hope classic wow is huge, and makes SE cash in on the idea of a 75 cap FFXI server.

There is roughly no chance at this. Even if WoW classic gets a full million subs for a whole year, that would only translate to like 50k FFXI subs based on the max sub count of each game. And adults don't have as much time for XI grind, so it'd likely get a smaller % of nostalgia players than WoW.

You are basically assuming that because dogs have 4 legs and fur, and so do cats, therefore people would readily just jump into cat parenting just as much as they would a dog without consideration for the differences in each animal memeabilities.

Doge can no has cheeseburgers. Cheeseburger having Cats can't wow, much, in Comic Sans MS.

I'm confused.

We haz Mithra?

Psst, no one tell him that May had a "free return campaign" going on.

If you're talking to me, which you probably are, you fail to realize that active stays active TWO MONTHS, after you stop playing. Anyone who came for the "free" login was NOT counted in MAY and WAS COUNTED in July. It's not rocket science.

May numbers reflect MARCH
and July numbers reflect MAY

July being lower than May means that the free campaign still meant dropping subs.

Database right this second is only accurate as of June 1st(ish) ((still going down, by the way.))Anyone who quit June 1st to Today could still get counted until October.

For posterity;
7/28 85,797
8/01 84,933
8/02 84,793

this is also only chars who have used AH, not chars who are active, so it stands to reason many of them could be mules or alts

i have mules who have gone a year without touching AH because i default to the same chars interacting with it and holding my gil

(not saying it isn't a downward trend, but it's imperfect data, not a source of all truth)

So you're comparing free access time where everyone can login and play for free to paid time and suggesting that means sub numbers are slipping?

Regardless, stop being a drama queen. Numbers go up and down all the time, same thing is happening on 14 where masses are unsubbing already due to being bored with the last expansion. They are offering freebies of fantasias to keep people playing if they sub for 2 months.

FFXI is 17 years old, numbers have gone up and down constantly and people remain subbed even if they don't play. Auction house numbers are not subscriber numbers anyway.

Some points:

Lots of people remain subbed when they aren't playing, paying > playing.
FF14 had an expansion / patch release and people usually start playing that 1-2 months in advance of something like that.
A lot of people have multiple accounts and only use the auction house on one character very often, hell I have 5 accounts I pay for and I barely use the auction house on one myself.
Certain things can bring players back to boost numbers UP and then they drop back down again a month or two later (even silly things like game articles), taking numbers from one month to another is kind of meaningless unless you show them from further back and show this isn't just some bump that went back to normal after.

Regardless if you want to assume that 85k people paying $12 is good and 84k people paying $12 is bad then you're chicken little is in overdrive.

This is from 3 years ago:



https://imgur.com/zqeWz7u

I can see that you don't read, so there really isn't a point to continuing lol.

For posterity;
9/2016 80,257
28/7/19 85,797
01/8/19 84,933
24/9/19 86,584

Shhhh, if you disrupt his fragile dream that dead game is dead, he'll go full autist on you.

2015 was large ban wave. so duh numbers were down. Literally every single person I knew was gone leading up to that screenshot.

Are people going to stay active when there's risk of ban, lolnope.

Also, right after the official announcement of the literal end of the game.

Are you ever going to quit commenting on a game you actively hate, lolnope.

Not while it's actively paying me to play it, lul

Ah yes, gilselling. Ever proving you are on the highground.

Hey, FFXIAH staff, how is he not banned yet?