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By Chimerawizard 2019-11-28 05:55:32
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
For what it's worth whether you believe it or not i wish they were perma too. I *** hate logging in and pretending to play this. But I do like money. Easy money.

First time I've turned my pcs off for more than an hour in 3 years. First time I can sleep without a nagging fear of maybe I'll get banned tonight. I don't have to worry about someone messaging me to buy at 3 am.
Enjoy your Thanksgiving weekend without the stress of RMT'ing FFXI.
Good luck with getting your next batch of accounts prepped to do the exact same thing a few months from now when the heat's turned down a bit.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2019-11-28 06:06:40
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Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
Asura.Cloudblade said: »
Yes, sadly you won't be perma-banned like you deserve, but I can rest happy for a few days, at least, knowing there was a temp ban. Hey, actually you might have a defense against the ban. You could say you don't actually play the game since you let scripts and cheats play the game for you.

Seriously, though. I do wish all of your accounts got perma-banned, but fate is a cruel mistress for justice.


good god you are *** clinical get some help
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By Odin.Drakenv 2019-11-28 06:09:13
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Chimerawizard said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
For what it's worth whether you believe it or not i wish they were perma too. I *** hate logging in and pretending to play this. But I do like money. Easy money.

First time I've turned my pcs off for more than an hour in 3 years. First time I can sleep without a nagging fear of maybe I'll get banned tonight. I don't have to worry about someone messaging me to buy at 3 am.
Enjoy your Thanksgiving weekend without the stress of RMT'ing FFXI.
Good luck with getting your next batch of accounts prepped to do the exact same thing a few months from now when the heat's turned down a bit.
Those candles tho.
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By kireek 2019-11-28 06:09:37
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The ban statement is the first action, you'll get emails soon. Those look like temp bans but temp can often turn into perma.
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By kireek 2019-11-28 06:16:41
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Dear Customer:

This notice is to inform you that we have suspended the FINAL FANTASY XI service account registered to this e-mail for the following 3rd party program violations on 11-17-2011. Every account action we issue is based on conclusive evidence of a violation and is reviewed for accuracy.

Third party programs were being used to enhance movement speed and spawn NMs faster than other users.

Based on the actions in this most recent incident and any prior record on the service account, we have suspended the FINAL FANTASY XI service account registered to this e-mail in accordance with the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement. The suspension will last a minimum of 216 hours, during which time you will be unable to access FINAL FANTASY XI. You will immediately lose access to the service account for the duration of the suspension. However, the actual suspension countdown starts at 0:00 on the next day of the suspension being issued. Additionally, the service account will be investigated and considered for termination. The suspension will remain in place until the completion of the investigation, even if this exceeds the 216-hour period. To best understand the penalties taken against the service account, please review the Account Penalty Policy at http://sqex.to/ury

The world of FINAL FANTASY XI is much like the real world, in that it is populated by users of all ages hailing from a variety of regions and social backgrounds. The FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement: was created to insure that all of those users could relax and enjoy themselves. We therefore ask all account holders to understand and follow the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement. The violations committed in this case fall under:

FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement:
2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software designed to modify the Game and game play. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during game play.

All account actions are permanently recorded on the service account. We therefore ask account holders to take extra care not to repeat violations of the user agreement. Please take a moment and review the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement at http://sqex.to/4EL


If you suspect the violation resulted from unauthorized access to the FINAL FANTASY XI service account or the actions of an unauthorized third party who is not your parent or legal guardian, please review the following article on the SQUARE ENIX Support Center.
http://sqex.to/FTa

This message has been sent to you for notification purposes only, and we are unable to address further inquires via replies to this email. Should you have any additional questions or concerns, we ask that you visit the SQUARE ENIX Support Center at http://support.na.square-enix.com/ffxi.

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LM-11 is Temp w/ review of termination, LM-17 is Termination, LM-31 is locked account due to to many violations.

Not mine, from an old thread.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/26972/lm-11/
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By DirectX 2019-11-28 06:18:54
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Interesting that they bother to give a specific reason, e.g. "For movement speed and popping nms"
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By ashcrow 2019-11-28 06:19:11
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Holy ***boys, I *** you not, my whole crew just went down

Did you get got too?
Keep it civilized. Don't get my *** thread locked. I love you too~

its ok i always hated you.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2019-11-28 06:19:35
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kireek said: »
The ban statement is the first action, you'll get emails soon. Those look like temp bans but temp can often turn into perma.
Facts. I got banned for at first three days but then I pist off the GM so extended to 7 days and possible perma like 6 or 7 years for being naughty. Then played WoW for a week didn’t like the controls and the obvious immaturity from the community so went back to see if I was ok on 11. Been good ever sense.
:0 eiryl if perma better still be on forums :p!
In before possible perma!
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By ashcrow 2019-11-28 06:20:48
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Draylo said: »
Something they haven't enforced for over 2 years.. why wouldn't people join them if there is 0 repercussions.
thats what they always do when they are about to drop a big dump of content or expansion. Remamber Neo salvage before SOA? it was the same
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By Odin.Drakenv 2019-11-28 06:24:23
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ashcrow said: »
Draylo said: »
Something they haven't enforced for over 2 years.. why wouldn't people join them if there is 0 repercussions.
thats what they always do when they are about to drop a big dump of content or expansion. Remamber Neo salvage before SOA? it was the same
Whenever I see people say they are releasing huge content in 2020 or “soon” I remember this article based on ffxi digest.
https://www.dualshockers.com/final-fantasy-xi-ffxi-update-20th/

Two more years it seems
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By kireek 2019-11-28 06:29:56
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I find it a little crappy if they went about it like this. They should have announced something to give warning, after almost 2 years from the last time they turned their auto-bans on, its a bit of a surprise. A lot of people will be blown up if so.

The way it tends to work is the people who track this stuff tend to let things slide, then when something big happens the producer steps in and looks into it and they get told to stop letting things slide.

This is kind of why the community that uses certain things should self police, cause they will crack down on a lot of other things in the aftermath.

Also worth pointing out that the STF are not a FFXI paid team, they work for the entire online division. So in theory they can take action on xiv accounts too, or at least check those after a ffxi banning to see if anything underhanded is being done there too.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-28 06:56:49
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DirectX said: »
Interesting that they bother to give a specific reason, e.g. "For movement speed and popping nms"

That isn't normal and I almost feel like they editted it in for their own reasons. Gotten dozens of those emails over the years and never got a reason.

Kireek's LM codes are mostly correct, but they also use 31 for both temp and perma at times(maybe staff initiated vs autobanner, idk).

Giving notice of autobanner defeats the purpose. The idea is to show people that if you value your account, certain things are never safe. Enforcing constantly costs too many accounts, doing this every so often should give people enough reason not to do ***.

I've been saying since 2015 that it could come back on anytime.
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By Asura.Fondue 2019-11-28 07:10:05
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Was the auto banner mainly for cupper?
Playing xi without warping and sanic speed could never be me
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By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-28 07:14:12
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Speed and extended playtime or farming are the most well cited issues from last time autobanner was used.
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By DirectX 2019-11-28 07:15:04
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
DirectX said: »
Interesting that they bother to give a specific reason, e.g. "For movement speed and popping nms"

That isn't normal and I almost feel like they editted it in for their own reasons. Gotten dozens of those emails over the years and never got a reason.
Yeah, I thought that. I never got a reason years ago and noone else I know ever got a written reason.

Eiryl was botting CP, not using speed. I wonder if they only hit people in Reisenjima or also Dho Gates. Completely different context and scale but still kind of the same thing.
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By Asura.Toralin 2019-11-28 08:14:23
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Still seeing plenty of CP shouts on Asura this morning
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By DirectX 2019-11-28 08:24:23
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I still wonder how these Chinese RMT got Dojis. Guess they buy the SAM accounts.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-28 09:19:49
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DirectX said: »
I still wonder how these Chinese RMT got Dojis. Guess they buy the SAM accounts.

It's really not that complicated. It's only $30 to have someone merc doji. All the bots pay for aeonic clears and/or ambuscade clears. Why do you think the price never goes down like it should. Bots will make the money back botting and don't care about the investment.
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By Asura.Chevalios 2019-11-28 09:23:19
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
extended playtime

I never log out.. You mean like your character actually being active right?
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By spengler 2019-11-28 09:28:32
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Asura.Chevalios said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
extended playtime

I never log out.. You mean like your character actually being active right?
He means actively botting. Last time there were people banned who would only bot for 4 hours consecutively. In reality it's extremely unlikely to have 100% uptime of activity over a 4 hour stretch and would be insanely easy to detect.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-28 09:35:19
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Urat or whatever said he got banned grinding ebisu+1 quest so prob various kinds of activity. Not idle.
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By DirectX 2019-11-28 09:41:14
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
DirectX said: »
I still wonder how these Chinese RMT got Dojis. Guess they buy the SAM accounts.

It's really not that complicated. It's only $30 to have someone merc doji. All the bots pay for aeonic clears and/or ambuscade clears. Why do you think the price never goes down like it should. Bots will make the money back botting and don't care about the investment.
Could be that, but on the same logic wouldn't it just be quicker and easier to buy a shitty doji account too?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-28 09:42:04
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And get it recalled... nope lol.
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By DirectX 2019-11-28 09:52:51
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Do they even need Doji to make decent CP? If using Jinpu with 2 GEO it would probably be good enough damage.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-28 09:56:17
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I mean they could still pull it off with a shitty gk too but they're already horribly inefficient so they gotta put in a minimum
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-11-28 10:22:38
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kireek said: »
Draylo said: »
I find it a little crappy if they went about it like this. They should have announced something to give warning, after almost 2 years from the last time they turned their auto-bans on, its a bit of a surprise. A lot of people will be blown up if so.

The way it tends to work is the people who track this stuff tend to let things slide, then when something big happens the producer steps in and looks into it and they get told to stop letting things slide.

This is kind of why the community that uses certain things should self police, cause they will crack down on a lot of other things in the aftermath.

Also worth pointing out that the STF are not a FFXI paid team, they work for the entire online division. So in theory they can take action on xiv accounts too, or at least check those after a ffxi banning to see if anything underhanded is being done there too.

They aren't letting it slide, there just isn't enough spare manpower to dig through billions of log entries to sort out who's doing what. If the auto-banner doesn't catch something then it won't be caught until enough STFU reports go through to catch the attention of those guys, who then spend the manpower to validate if it's indeed a problem. They likely discovered the size and scope of the issue and escalated it up to senior management. They likely then spent even more manpower to write algorithms to search through their bazillion log entries for specific patterns and start flagging accounts for human inspection.

Manpower = time = money, so it's really about budget management. FFXI is an older game and the STFU budget for it is small compared to the other SE properties they work on.
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By fonewear 2019-11-28 10:28:22
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Holy ***boys, I *** you not, my whole crew just went down

Did you get got too?
Keep it civilized. Don't get my *** thread locked. I love you too~


If they could only ban pointless threads like this....
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By Odin.Drakenv 2019-11-28 10:30:13
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fonewear said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Holy ***boys, I *** you not, my whole crew just went down

Did you get got too?
Keep it civilized. Don't get my *** thread locked. I love you too~


If they could only ban pointless threads like this....
Hey all thread lives matter!
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By fonewear 2019-11-28 10:31:32
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You should create a thread letting us know when you are back up and botting. Curious minds want to know !
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By Odin.Drakenv 2019-11-28 10:32:46
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fonewear said: »
You should create a thread letting us know when you are back up and botting. Curious minds want to know !
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