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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-05 14:59:06
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Garuda.Cloudsephy said:
Hmmm.

I wonder if that will be good or bad lol.

Generally a hung parliament is very bad. No legislation or bills can get through, every thing grinds to a halt. Parliament even more of a ***-fest than normal.
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By Asura.Jetzabel 2010-05-05 15:02:58
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Valefor.Argettio said:
Garuda.Cloudsephy said:
Hmmm.

I wonder if that will be good or bad lol.

Generally a hung parliament is very bad. No legislation or bills can get through, every thing grinds to a halt. Parliament even more of a ***-fest than normal.

Yup and all during a tricky time in the economy - the last thing we need is more uncertainty =/
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By Zekko 2010-05-05 15:07:17
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When do the votes get tallyed and released?
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-05 15:07:23
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Normally a hung parliament leads to another election being called within a few months, unless a really strong coalition can be formed.
Zekko said:
When do the votes get tallyed and released?

Counting begins after the polls close (10pm), the first results normally start coming in around 11-12pm and will dribble in throughout the night.

Normally by early/mid morning on Friday we will know what's going but its going to be close so it may take longer.
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By Leviathan.Celestinia 2010-05-05 15:20:45
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Asura.Jetzabel said:
Valefor.Argettio said:
Garuda.Cloudsephy said:
Hmmm. I wonder if that will be good or bad lol.
Generally a hung parliament is very bad. No legislation or bills can get through, every thing grinds to a halt. Parliament even more of a ***-fest than normal.
Yup and all during a tricky time in the economy - the last thing we need is more uncertainty =/

It's kind of hard to escape the uncertainty since we really have little idea about what either of the 3 parties would actually do in that first budget lol

Hung parliment is all about making compromises it seems. Giving into compromise is usualy a sign of weakness and, being egotistical, politicians would rather fight/argue than admit they are wrong or appear weak by accepting compromise. Which is probably why re-elections have to be called.

The fact a hung parliment is likely just shows electoral reform is really needed, and if it happens people will only lose more faith in politics when the parties fail to work together. Personally that's the only place I can see real change comming from lol
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-05 15:47:51
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I doubt anything good (read: change) would come from a hung parliament.
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By Carbuncle.Lodo 2010-05-05 15:53:41
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Forget the Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, and Saxon. Here's a party that can enact real change- they're more than willing to exterminate politics as usual.




In absence of Dalek Prime (Minister), I would probably side with the Labour party.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-05-05 15:56:34
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Just to add, the American columnist Nate Silver, along with help from British counterparts, has been doing a decidedly bang-up job covering the British election. He's a mathematician by trade who's proven himself to be an insanely good numbers guy as far as projections go on the US side of things.
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By Valefor.Shaone 2010-05-05 15:59:23
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Green. Least worst choice for me. Would be even better if they win.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/may/05/greens-window-opportunity-brighton

No party fully represents my views, and the whole representational system is broken in my opinion, first past the post, proportonal or otherwise. The fundamental issue as I see it is most of the population is *** stupid.

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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-05 16:00:37
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Just to add, the American columnist Nate Silver, along with help from British counterparts, has been doing a decidedly bang-up job covering the British election. He's a mathematician by trade who's proven himself to be an insanely good numbers guy as far as projections go on the US side of things.

I am genuinely surprise there has been that much coverage out side of the country.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2010-05-05 17:57:30
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Fenrir.Fearforever said:
Personally i think every General Election someone new should win, it'd keep things fresh because anyone who's been in power for 12 years (like Labour) they feel as if all they gotta do is talk abunch of BS and people will vote for them.

Yea, thats usually how it works
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By Hades.Ferusio 2010-05-05 18:11:47
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Lib Dem only because Gordon Brown looks like hes having a constant stroke and id burn in eternal hellfire for voting tory.

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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2010-05-05 19:11:45
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I gots a strange feeling that lib dems are going to do alot better than expected...

I cant quite vote yet, im still 17 but i would vote either conserv or lib dems theres things i like and dislike about all of them obviously, just gotta choose which areas you wanna loose out on and which to excel on. The government only have so much revenue.. unless you keep on borrowing like gordon
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By Gilgamesh.Shayala 2010-05-07 01:39:29
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Now that we have woken up to a hung parliament how do you all feel?

I'm not exactly happy about the situation! I was hoping Labour would be returned to power.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-05-07 01:42:59
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By Leviathan.Scampi 2010-05-07 01:47:28
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oh well at least people tried to get that moron brown out of power, with any luck LB will go with tories and we can start to get this country great again.brown has to laugh at the nation, no matter how much labour messes this country up people will vote for him, maybe next time brown you go round and stir labour voters tea with your todger then wipe it on there curtains, bet they would still vote for you

but on a plus if brown does end up running us into the ground again, we wont need shoes. we will be on our knees all the time
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By Gilgamesh.Shayala 2010-05-07 01:52:08
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We weren't voting for Gordon Brown/David Cameron/Nick Clegg, in case you didn't notice their names were not on your ballot paper (unless you live in their constituencies).
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By Valefor.Endlesspath 2010-05-07 01:55:03
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UK election results: Liberal Democrats acknowledge failure for Cleggmania

Projections and results in British elections

AT A GLANCE: UK Election Results Point To Hung Parliament

Nothing like overconfidence~

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By Leviathan.Scampi 2010-05-07 02:15:53
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Gilgamesh.Shayala said:
We weren't voting for Gordon Brown/David Cameron/Nick Clegg, in case you didn't notice their names were not on your ballot paper (unless you live in their constituencies).


D'uh?


sounded like a lib dem voter, did you really think they would get in? lol every vote for lib dem was a vote for labour to stay in power.

we got so close to getting the number of seats needed to get a true party in that has a proven record of sorting out labours *** ups. now we just got a party back in that is going to laugh at us every night, and really they have the right to, no matter what they do to us we will make an excuse and vote them back in.

going to watch the news later to see if brown has learnt the /point /laugh commands.


one thing did make me laugh last night, when voting 1st finished and the city opened the pound went up (nice the tories had not even got into power and the change for the good had already started), but then it looked like nothing was going to change and the pound went right back down ( good old labour), nice to see at least the city knows he is a moron


but!!!!!

when all the dust settles it will be the tories in power.

yes its hung but many reasons show it will be tories and not labour


1. labour have 38% of the seats and lib dem 8%. labour would still need NI and some independents to get the 51% lib dem knows that will get very messy and is no good for the country


2 brown is not going to listen to anyone else, he has a proven record that shows he does things as he wants so anyone joining him would just be there to nod there heads

3 labour has taken a massive knock by the public and lib dems are trying to make a good name, when labour fails and take even more knocks lib dems will take the knocks aswell

4 anything bad that happens in a labour term will get blamed on who ever joins with him. remember its never labours fault.

5 lib dem have gone on record that who ever has most seats should run the country, so tories 44% plus lib dems 8% would give them enough seats

add it all up and its come to a taxi for brown
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By Leviathan.Celestinia 2010-05-07 02:37:55
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Leviathan.Scampi said:
we got so close to getting the number of seats needed to get a true party in that has a proven record of sorting out labours *** ups.

Aka Thatcher; millions unemployed, a destroyed economy, millions losing their homes, workers strikes etc

Last conservative Govt nearly had my family on the streets lol only people torries is good for is those on over $30,000 a year.

Edit: Also it's funny how people blame labour for the mess we are in.

Was it labour who caused the global recession? No it was the banks and if you point fingers at labour you are pointing fingers at every other major govt in the world who failed to prevent it.

Under Brown the UK has seen some of the best growth rates since the recession started against it's Europe counterparts. It's funny how people use the recession as a means to bash labour lol
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-07 02:48:51
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While Thatcher wasn't a popular leader the one good thing she did do was 'beat' the unions. It meant everyone hated her at the time and only remember her in a bad light, but can you imagine the country now if we were still on a 3 day weak and unions could still strike if their 'allied' union was on strike?

No doubt she did some bad things, but sorting out the striking/unions was something that needed doing for the long term stability of the country.
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By Leviathan.Celestinia 2010-05-07 02:50:56
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Valefor.Argettio said:
While Thatcher wasn't a popular leader the one good thing she did do was 'beat' the unions. It meant everyone hated her at the time and only remember her in a bad light, but can you imagine the country now if we were still on a 3 day weak and unions could still strike if their 'allied' union was on strike?

No doubt she did some bad things, but sorting out the striking/unions was something that needed doing for the long term stability of the country.

She did make positive change yes but you've made my point there kinda lol It's easy to look at a party in a bad light focusing on their mistakes and give them no credit for the good they have done.
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By Leviathan.Scampi 2010-05-07 02:51:48
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Leviathan.Celestinia said:
Leviathan.Scampi said:
we got so close to getting the number of seats needed to get a true party in that has a proven record of sorting out labours *** ups.
Aka Thatcher; millions unemployed, a destroyed economy, millions losing their homes, workers strikes etc Last conservative Govt nearly had my family on the streets lol only people torries is good for is those on over $30,000 a year. Edit: Also it's funny how people blame labour for the mess we are in. Was it labour who caused the global recession? No it was the banks and if you point fingers at labour you are pointing fingers at every other major govt in the world who failed to prevent it. Under Brown the UK has seen some of the best growth rates since the recession started against it's Europe counterparts. It's funny how people use the recession as a means to bash labour lol


you need to stop saying what others tell you to say and go find out things for yourself.

1 unemployement was at an all time low, yes thatcher did hit industry but that was because the last goverment (labour) had made sure unions ruled workd places, you couldnt get a job unless you joined one and was strikes all the time DURRING the labour gov not the tories. only strikes that really went on durry thatcher was coal stikes, because of scargil (cough labour)

2 the pound was at all all time high under tories, not worthless like it was under labour. tories did everything to sort out the labours mess.


3 wtf brown has done what? muppets keep saying hes done this and that but cant say what he really has done, maybe selling all our gold when it was at an all time low was a good thing?

if you really had a clue and im really doubt you do but you would see the 1st term labour blamed tories for everything, and last term stuck there head in the sand and pretended nothing was wrong.

everything you said is copy and paste from just about all looney labour supporters. do you even know the country is in a mess? or is its someone elses mess that has put us in the mess?

we are in more of a mess now than what we was durring world war 2

brown has no repect in this country or any other, lets not forget last years world summit where he had to get the newspapers to make a big deal over the fact usa was ignoring him rofl


btw global recession? sorry we dont vote someone in to sort out the world. he is in to sort out this country and should worry about this country and not use global recession as an excuse to why we are in trouble
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By Leviathan.Scampi 2010-05-07 02:55:16
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Leviathan.Celestinia said:
Valefor.Argettio said:
While Thatcher wasn't a popular leader the one good thing she did do was 'beat' the unions. It meant everyone hated her at the time and only remember her in a bad light, but can you imagine the country now if we were still on a 3 day weak and unions could still strike if their 'allied' union was on strike? No doubt she did some bad things, but sorting out the striking/unions was something that needed doing for the long term stability of the country.
She did make positive change yes but you've made my point there kinda lol It's easy to look at a party in a bad light focusing on their mistakes and give them no credit for the good they have done.


and you can list the good things labour have done in 13 years? maybe they just slow starters
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By Asura.Jetzabel 2010-05-07 03:19:56
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Gilgamesh.Shayala said:
Now that we have woken up to a hung parliament how do you all feel?

I'm not exactly happy about the situation! I was hoping Labour would be returned to power.

Pretty annoyed to be honest. Like I said, hung parliament = uncertainty, and none of us need more of that right now.
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oh well at least people tried to get that moron brown out of power, with any luck LB will go with tories and we can start to get this country great again.brown has to laugh at the nation, no matter how much labour messes this country up people will vote for him, maybe next time brown you go round and stir labour voters tea with your todger then wipe it on there curtains, bet they would still vote for you

but on a plus if brown does end up running us into the ground again, we wont need shoes. we will be on our knees all the time

Plus everything else you have said...

It's clear you are pretty bias against labour. It even goes as far as saying that all the good times we had under labour (Seems like you have a different memory of things - it was over the past 3 years or so that things really started to go 'wrong') are thanks to stuff the tories did before them? Is that what you are saying?

One thing I notice from voter views from down in England, is that you seem to talk about this process as though it only applies to your country. Especially when you start talking about thatcher there scampi - she destroyed scotland. That's why people up here hate the tories. I remember how poor my family was when I was very young, you say that was thanks to the tories. I agree and it sucked.

I understand you are annoyed about your own circumstances and all, thats tough, but blindly blaming it all on Brown/Labour? how is that any different from people criticizing the tories over stuff 'other people told you'?

All I have to say is I'll be doing something I said I'd never do if the tories take over - I'll be voting for SNP and Scottish independence at the next opportunity. The tories don't give a damn about poor people and especially not scottish people - thats not hearsay, its fact.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-05-07 03:25:23
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Just like to chime in (sorry I'm from the States) that it's nice to see that you guys can hold a conversation about politics without resorting to mud slinging by the third post. It kind of refreshes my views on humanity.
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By Leviathan.Scampi 2010-05-07 03:41:15
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Asura.Jetzabel said:
Gilgamesh.Shayala said:
Now that we have woken up to a hung parliament how do you all feel? I'm not exactly happy about the situation! I was hoping Labour would be returned to power.
Pretty annoyed to be honest. Like I said, hung parliament = uncertainty, and none of us need more of that right now.
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oh well at least people tried to get that moron brown out of power, with any luck LB will go with tories and we can start to get this country great again.brown has to laugh at the nation, no matter how much labour messes this country up people will vote for him, maybe next time brown you go round and stir labour voters tea with your todger then wipe it on there curtains, bet they would still vote for you but on a plus if brown does end up running us into the ground again, we wont need shoes. we will be on our knees all the time
Plus everything else you have said... It's clear you are pretty bias against labour. It even goes as far as saying that all the good times we had under labour (Seems like you have a different memory of things - it was over the past 3 years or so that things really started to go 'wrong') are thanks to stuff the tories did before them? Is that what you are saying? One thing I notice from voter views from down in England, is that you seem to talk about this process as though it only applies to your country. Especially when you start talking about thatcher there scampi - she destroyed scotland. That's why people up here hate the tories. I remember how poor my family was when I was very young, you say that was thanks to the tories. I agree and it sucked. I understand you are annoyed about your own circumstances and all, thats tough, but blindly blaming it all on Brown/Labour? how is that any different from people criticizing the tories over stuff 'other people told you'? All I have to say is I'll be doing something I said I'd never do if the tories take over - I'll be voting for SNP and Scottish independence at the next opportunity. The tories don't give a damn about poor people and especially not scottish people - thats not hearsay, its fact.


but again, name the good things labour have done? i have done nothing at all for the uk, does that mean i have done a good job aswell? labour reminds me of bart simpson " i didnt do it" people didnt tell me about tories, i grow up in them times and see 1st hand how good things was when labour came into power and how they have messes it up, i was also old enough to remeber the labour gov before and the mess they left the country in.

an ignored problem dont go away. you can tell yourself how good things are and if you say it enough your get yourself to believe it. but one day your going to have to face up to facts that things just aint good and labour have done nothing.


i dont blame things blindly, im old enough to see whats going on in the uk and not try and make excusses for a gov that dont care


tbh i cant see how you was poor, tories put employment at an all time low and jobs was there for people that wanted one.i left school at 15 because i had a job. tories cant be blamed for people not wanting a better life, they got the stanglehold the unions had out so people could work and not like when labour was in of getting a job,having to join the union and then be on strike the rest of the week.

things have gone wrong the last 3 years? just what country we taking about? things have been going wrong for years, labour sold all our gold very low so blair could look like a great man but everyone knew it would come back and haunt us in the near future.


labour run this country? think most people wouldnt trust labour to run a bath

you vote snp all you want if tories get back in, have you not learnt abything, a vote for any party that cant win is just a vote for whoever is in power, so if tories get in your snp vote is just another for tories, thank you
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By Moonmist 2010-05-07 03:46:08
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Well it looks like a hung parliament with the tories in the lead... woot... yay...
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By Asura.Jetzabel 2010-05-07 03:51:16
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Leviathan.Scampi said:
you vote snp all you want if tories get back in, have you not learnt abything, a vote for any party that cant win is just a vote for whoever is in power, so if tories get in your snp vote is just another for tories, thank you

Then you know little about UNITED KINGDOM politics. Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland all have their own devolved parliaments. SNP currently govern the Scottish one, and if they get enough votes next time round in the Scottish election, could easily start a referendum on independence. I've always been of the opinion that Scotland is better with England, but its a two way relationship - England is also better with Scotland. I wonder how happy the tories would be without the money they make from the oil and whisky export. Both are valuable commodities, and Scotland is becoming the 'oil capital' of green energy now too.

I was 13 by the time Blair became PM. So I DO remember how it was when the Tories lost power. It wasn't the rosy vision you give up here in Scotland.

I could give you a list scampi but all I will say is POLL TAX. I think that is a good start. Please continue to show me how the conservatives were wonderful for ALL of UK, and not just a few. That is the whole point, the tories are great for a few, not the many. (I think that is a labour slogan actually lol)
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By Leviathan.Scampi 2010-05-07 03:54:13
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and just to burst your bubble Jetzabel but in 1997 i voted labour.

yes i see what they did before but i dont follow a party blind and listen to what im told, i use my eyes aswell and see whats going on, the uk was strong thanks to the tories but labour had some good points and i thought they couldnt do a bad job again. i was worng.

i didnt vote last time, labour i knew was bad but tories didnt have anyone to vote for. did anyone even know who was in charge of tories last time, so i just didnt vote

i voted this time out of fear of what this country could be like if labour is given the go ahead to mess it up even more
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