British People Onry: General Election!!!

Yup which is why i'm hoping Nick Clegg can get that electoral reform pushed through.

Politics here are too full of corruption, arse licking and hypocrisy. I don't particularly like any of the leaders, but I decided to choose the lesser of the three evils lol. As long as they get stuff done, I don't care what coalition forms. I just don't want a tory majority government (using smaller parties to boost their number).

In the small chance labour do form a coalition, I'd like for their leader to change quite soon in (maybe 1 year) after things have settled.

Idc about your vote, I was commenting on your change in this thread.

You started out as a die hard Tory who could see no wrong in the tory party and no right in the labour party, now you are saying that labour had good ideas.

The 2 views don't fit together.

That and he won't explain how council tax is just the same as poll tax (with proper english and maths to prove it - not just "I R OLDER AND WISER THAN U") because he can't; they aren't the same lol. It isn't even relevant to this election, its just a bit of tory history that he wants to deny all the while talking about the horror days of labour.

again look at my last post, what happened back then dont apply to now,i vote for who i feel is best for now.rofl this aint football. you dont find a team you like and support them blindly for rest of your life.


back in 97 the tories had unemployement low, the pound was strong and things was looking good, but they had no idea and how to move forward from there. just like labour now they wanted voting back in by not really offering anything

labour in 97 seemed to want to do things for the younger people.wanted to take the country forward. i had kids coming up to there teens so it seemed best back then to go with labour so my kids could benifit from there ideas

That's fine, but the posts before your last one was all about how great the torries where and how rubbish labour was for all history, not just this election. You can't say "Labour has never done anything right" and then "They have some good poilices"

Any way moving on

Mr Long-leg-ed-Cleggy-wegy (Nick Cleg for those that don't watch Russel Howard) is now the key to this country's future.

Both Brown and Cameron need him for a collition to work so he can pretty much demand whatever he wants... Fun times for Lib Dem.

lmao you belong in politics scampi - this is what people complain about politicians - they never answer simple questions. You can't admit you are wrong about poll tax, so you just turn a blind eye =p Explain or admit you were wrong.

Needs moar Churchills to redefine centuries-old tribal and ethnic borders in the middle-east for Palestinians and Jews to fight over.



















Ok, that's a blatant troll sentence for any pre-sarcastic discoverers..

I actually love this, makes politics interesting! It's not often you see a small party hold the big ones to ransom. Like I said hung parliment is going to bring change good or bad one way or another.

oh god she still crying on,

pole tax caused alot of trouble for the gov so they changed its name and gave it to the councill to collect. coped out of the blame for it.and passed it to the councill so they was responsible for there own money.

read the article you linked, it repalced the pole tax. when you replace a light bulb do you repalce it with a toaster? lol

we are done. you come across as a kid that used to stamp your feet, no mater what you say was set up to get the same end result

Labour and Lib Dem had a coalition in the scottish parliament for a few years, it seemed to work Ok. Not sure how it would apply at a national level in these moderm times though. I guess it could add a lot more variation to policies and such though, which would definitely be a good thing.

You replace with a candle!

When you replace a light bulb with and energy effiecent light bulb do you do as much damage to the enviroment?

They replaced it with a different (and better) system that worked of a different fundimental means of measurment.

Scampi, this makes absolutely no sense and is incorrect. The article I linked only said council tax replaced poll tax - poll tax was also collected by councils, as was rates...

It is you who asked me to tell you something the tories did wrong, and it is you who then tried to dispute the fact. There is a very significant difference in how the tax is calculated in each system. And wait, it was YOU who kept bringing up taxes too!

Now that you can't explain why or give proper proof (apart from constantly saying "your article proves it!"), you are just trying to say bad things about me and can't just admit you were wrong. You look stupid.

Edit: Oh and since you were so insistent on asking something good labour ever did during their time, I'll state one of the obvious ones that slapped me on the face - Devolution. lol. There you go, that was one awesome thing labour did.

i dont need to make you look stupid, sorry you do that yourself, as you just quoted they are all collected by the councill.just because different names dont make them any different. all the same end result

lol but i do like this chatting with you, you do all the work,you say one thing then prove yourself wrong

Your right, in the board sense tax is tax.

But poll tax is well know as one of the most unjust and unfair taxes due to how the payments were calculated. Council tax is different due to how it is calculated. Its still a tax, but a very different tax.

Sooooo...

One of your prime reasons for bitching about labour is taxes. Yet, you apparently don't care if the tories implemented a more unfair tax system (cause its the same result, you need to pay money - doesn't matter if its MORE money cause of unfair system). That's how much you care about taxes apparently, after alll the bitching about them you have done, you are quite happy to paint labour as terrorists all the while pretending poll tax didn't happen. I BET if labour had put poll tax as it was back then in their manifesto a couple of weeks ago, you'd be bitching on here about that too. "I don't want labour because of unfair poll tax".

The funny thing is, as argettio pointed out already, you contradict yourself over and over. In your explanation of poll tax & council tax, you gave a very ridiculous explanation as quoted, and then basically admitted it was wrong in your following post. Good job.

yes its true, labour have a history of being bad but when you vote you have to go with what you think is best. i had only seen one labour gov before that and things was very bad but i couldnt hold that against the 97 labour party.if the ideas go bad then next election i dont vote for them, as i said before tories had no one so the last election i didnt vote.


the best thing for this country and for labour itself is for it not to be in power. brown is no good for the country or labour and all the time labour have power you wont get him out. if tories get to run things he will be gone by end of the year and labour can start to build for next election

again next election even though labour have done very bad in the past i will have a clear mind and they all have another clean slate

we cant see the future, tories could make a total pigs ear of things and we could be even worse, labour runs things and we could start to get better, we take our chances.


as i said before i was not sure who to vote for, yes tories have a proven record for sorting out the mess but that was under a different leader. labour had the chance to show uk they wanted to make a change when they tried to get rid of brown. labour lost my vote when they bottled it and kept him

again @ Jetzabel wrong.

taxes have to go up no matter who runs the country.my problem with labour is they didnt see a problem till it was election time and once election is over they will go back to not seeing a problem


lol that last quote thats ment to be from me just you adding your own words? thats so so so so sad

Clearly I'm not British, but they had the British election on a program here tonight.. and I have to ask..

Do you really elect in a damn castle? And wtf were with those kids with the boxes of election votes? >.>

It's called satire, look it up.

You are still dodging the point of this argument between us scampi - you don't know what poll tax is and won't admit it. Let me just break it down for you:

A married couple live in their house with 2 kids, one has just turned 18. Poll tax is implemented. The tax bill for that house is calculated on each adult individual - So let's just say the uniform rate for one adult is £150. That is £450 for that one house per month in poll tax.

According to you, that is the 'same end result' as council tax, which in the same house could be £150 per month in total. Care to explain how this is the same? This argument is not about the current election - it is about you asking for an example of something the tories did wrong, then denying it even existed. Come on scampi, time to answer the bloody question.

of course we elect in castles, we all live in castles over here lol

plus they aint kids, them are umpalumpas

lol @ Jetzabel

can you really not see it, you have just said it yourself. they went from charging per person in the house, to per household. yes charges went down for most people but again its the same sort of thing just had cotton wool put on it, no good asking you to finally admite your wrong, your just change the subject and false quote something lol

Gawd. That makes me jealous and more eager to move there.. I wanna live in a Castle. |D

Ok I give up. You are dumb. I was going to say eff off back to eton with cameron, but I don't think they would accept a dunce like you =x

lol whats eton got to do with running the country, really shows your ignorance there. many next election he will have a purple tie on, eww can vote a leader in for that

So says the guy that thinks taxing people regardless of ability to pay is fine because its the same result! =p

no your right, bad bad taxes, come on brown get onto power and get rid of all taxes. we can live in Jetzabel world where we click our heals together 3 times and say theres no place like home, and boom big pile of cash


anyway horses start soon , hey just thought of something good labour did, got rid of the taxes on betting lol

I didn't vote for brown =p I voted for Tom Greatrex and the Labour party, who I already said I hope replace Gordon Brown quite soon in. David Milliband seems like a nice chap =p

well we agree on one thing, labour needs a new leader and lets leave it at that