British People Onry: General Election!!!

so thats what it means lol

so Argettio how does that make me one then as i worked for 28 years did alot of overtime and now been unemployed for a year but have never claimed any money? i pay my own way in this world and have never had a penny in benifits

my wife has a good job and her tax will go towards your uni top up fees you thought was so important.so if im a bum i should vote for lib dems?

lol whut?

I said communism ftw as a joke, and communism does not equal scroungers xD This is getting hilarious.

FYI, I don't actually want to live in a communist country. That was a joke.

im still trying to find out what it really means, i went to wiki but as the word breast wasnt in the 1st sentence i lost interest and went and did a bet lol

oh..

I'll let you off then >_>;

Some Info on Communism

Communism is a social structure in which classes are abolished and property is commonly controlled, as well as a political philosophy and social movement that advocates and aims to create such a society.

Karl Marx posited that communism would be the final stage in society, which would be achieved through a proletarian revolution and only possible after a transitional stage develops the productive forces, leading to a superabundance of goods and services.

"Pure communism" in the Marxian sense refers to a classless, stateless and oppression-free society where decisions on what to produce and what policies to pursue are made democratically, allowing every member of society to participate in the decision-making process in both the political and economic spheres of life. In modern usage, communism is often used to refer to the policies of the various communist states, which were authoritarian governments that had centrally planned economies and ownership of all the means of production. Most communist governments based their ideology on Marxism-Leninism.

As a political ideology, communism is usually considered to be a branch of socialism, a broad group of economic and political philosophies that draw on various political and intellectual movements with origins in the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution.[4] Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems with the capitalist market economy and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism.

Marx states that the only way to solve these problems is for the working class (proletariat), who according to Marx are the main producers of wealth in society and are exploited by the Capitalist-class (bourgeoisie), to replace the bourgeoisie as the ruling class in order to establish a free society, without class or racial divisions.[1] The dominant forms of communism, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism and Trotskyism are based on Marxism, as well as other forms of communism (such as Luxemburgism and Council communism), but non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and Anarchist communism) also exist.

Karl Marx never provided a detailed description as to how communism would function as an economic system, but it is understood that a communist economy would consist of common ownership of the means of production, culminating in the negation of the concept of private ownership of capital, which referred to the means of production in Marxian terminology.

The crimes by communist regimes have been condemned by the Council of Europe (2006) and several international declarations including the Prague Declaration on European Conscience and Communism (2008) and the Declaration on Crimes of Communism (2010).

Source: Wiki

Ok assume your wife left you and you ran out of money and was still unable to find work. I'm sure your stance would be a lot different then as you'd have no choice but to go on benefits, such is the reason the system exists.

A number of people abuse the system but most that do are the sort who would go into crime of muggings/theft if their benefits were taken away.

You have been able to support yourself through any financial hardships? Good for you, like so many conservatives you are ignorant of the other sector of society that genuinely struggles.

Rubbish! My ward (Fylde) has been conservative since it's inception in 1918, i'd say that is probably pretty safe. The Conservatives win by a huge majority every time we have an election.

yeah thats what i was reading. sort of dull lol need it shortened to one line

Politics in general is dull lol

You work hard and other people get your money.

Lol no. That's democracy.

people struggle because they are lazy.a free ride in life is so much easier.of course i have had hard times, but in them times i did more overtime.i didnt look to others to give me a handout.

you take away someone benefits and they go to crime? wtf they can put all the efforts into doing crime but cant find a job?

yes imagrants have taken alot of jobs but there is work out there for poeple that want it, its been said tescos are always looking for people, 10k a year is alot better than the money you would get on the dole

ok say all that happened to me.then i would get any job that was going. no matter what it payed. i have pride

thats why i dont work now lol i make more on the horses a day than i used to earn a week. yes i have bad days but by end of week im well up, and thanks to the labour gov doing away with betting tax its all mine now lol

Few people have mentioned Tesco`s as always looking for people, I can tell you this, the store near me isnt recruiting anyone. I used to work there so i know most of the staff and they`re saying they are short handed but the company still wont take on anymore staff.

Maybe you shoud try Asda instead

and to show just how stupid brown is i just see this on the itn website


David Cameron has said he wants to work together with the Liberal Democrats to tackle the country's problems.

Earlier, Lib Dem Leader Nick Clegg urged the Conservatives to form a Government after Britain returned an inconclusive result in the most tightly fought General Election in a generation.

Mr Cameron said he wanted to make a "big, open and comprehensive offer" to Nick Clegg's party to form a stable government

Gordon Brown said he is willing to see any of the party leaders if David Cameron and Nick Clegg do not reach an agreement on forming a government.


brown had the right for 1st chance to form an alliance but let them go 1st and is just sitting back,

lol he really dont have a clue

all the high street junk food shops are always looking for people to work for them, and you can do as many hrs as you want,point is there is work for people that want it

You clearly don't know the current situation in the working environment then scampi. My friend works at Sainsbury's and for the past 6 months every time they lay someone off they don't replace them. When he joined a year ago his night staff had over 20 people now they operate with less than 10 and grab 1-2 agency people when desperate.

To call people lazy is stupid, yes some are but consider this;

My mother is in her 50s, worked for 24 years straight inc bringing me up. Now she has health issues that prevent her from getting full time work and part time won't pay child minding fees for my 9yr old brother. She has no partner and huge debts to pay.

I've been looking for work tirelessly since xmas but because I got no work experience while I was at university i've been getting constantly shafted to the dozen or so more qualified/experienced people applying for my jobs.

Just pisses me off when people generalize those on benefits as lazy *** who "want a free ride", it's just ignorance.

Edit: oh also my local Morrisons even said to me they arn't even taking in CVs to put on file, they have too many and have no need to recruit for the forseeable future so.... no there are not job's around (in my area anyways) outside of care work.

I have honestly worked with harder working Polish/ Eastern European workers than young British workers who expect to do nothing to earn their rewards. One issue with immigration is the idea of job stealing, but I know more Britsh people willing to stay on benefits and do nothing than apply for the jobs which many of these guys are taking for minimum wage.

I am not for overflooding of the British population by foreign workers, but I do not agree with people who use them as an excuse for their unemployment due to their laziness to take on any job which is offered to them.

erm thank you for proving laziness, agencies climb all over students so if you didnt work when you was at uni then you just could not be bothered, now because they know your lazy and couldnt be bothered to work when at uni they dont want you and its the everyone elses fault?

why she got to find child minding fees when your doing nothing? cant you look after the 9 year old, your doing nothing

one excuse after another

Hmm maybe I didn't work at university because I was doing a business+IT composite degree which was highly stressful and I did not feel I would be able to cope working at the same time. I know a few people who broke down trying to work/study at the same time.

Maybe if you'd ever been to university you'd have some idea of the work load they can put you through. They expect you to study 2 hours a night per module while attending ~16 hours of classes a week. So that's about 35+ hours already not to include any assignments they want you to do, which my course consisted of about 3 group projects at the same time at one point.

A lot of people work and study, doesn't mean it's a viable option for most.

And @ the 2nd point that's while I was at the other end of the country studying. Now i'm looking for work while she stays at home so not to exacerbate her health issues.

Again, ignorance. This is why i'll never vote conservative, you look down on everyone in society who isn't middle class married and financially sound lol

Thats not really fair Scampi come on. Agencies are good for short-term temporary low paid jobs, not really something u can plan around.

Edit: Also, calling someone lazy because they "cant" find a job when you yourself just bet away all the money your Wife earns is a little hypocritical

lol yep i didnt go to uni, working was more important to me, keep making your excuses

to me it sounds like you set your sights way above yourself, manager of some international company maybe?

person that wanted to work would take anything, but then your education means your too important for a normal job

you keep claiming your £100 a week ( is that how much they get now? lol) and make do with it whilst you wait for you 300k a year job

erm not to sound to stupid but wouldnt a low payed min wage job pay you more than the dole pays you so in fact you would be better of in the short run

Actually no, you get more money from JSA than you would on minimum wage. You dont pay rent, get free dental/eye care etc, all the stuff u have to pay for if u work.

Thats why we have so many scrougers who "dont want to" work.

Refusing a low paid job because u cant afford to live on what you`d get isnt laziness

Actually fyi i've applied for a lot of shop work/night shift work/admin work lol so keep on looking like an ***. The job center makes sure you apply for anything you are capable of doing regardless of how qualified you are (unless you are significantly over qualified).

And I only get 51 quid a week not 100 thats per payout (fortnightly). So under minimum wage I'd need to work more than 10-12 hours a week to be better off. I've actually not seen many low paid jobs going in my area. It's 90% care work or cleaning work which requires some cleaning certificate or teaching.

i did a agency job some time back, was ment to be 1 month, ended up working for them for 5 years. kept my nose clean and did my work

wifes money is going out money. i dont use any of it and it goes into her account. i use my money and if you know people you get good tips from people in the know. just a few weeks ago got a tip of a 33/1 horse that ended up winning at 11/4. made enough at the 33/1 to do me ok for the month.

even short term work is better than no work, it shows future employers that you are trying to find work

i have been a manager in my last job if i interviewed anyone that said there was no work out there there applacation form would be stright in the bin

people of this country have got used to making excuses

you get into a temp job keep your nose clean do the work and blag it abit

my last job i started working on the shop floor, one day i heard the lab tach job would be going soon so i blaged i said could do that, didnt have a clue abour chemicals or what to do but that afternoon i was in the lab. 3 months later i was running the lab ( was still working for the agency) 1 year later i was manager

hard work, doing overtime is what gets you ahead in work, sometimes you have to start at the bottom, its up to you if you stay bottom

you need nothing to be a cleaner, just be able to get up early and do your work, most employers just want you to be able to get there on time and be reliable

again one excuse after another

lol my friend would laugh at that, he does a lot of overtime which btw sainsbury's only gives normal rates for now, good bye overtime pay. His manager basically turned around and said to him he's not manager material and will never do anything more than basic work.

part time work? get all the extra help but get to feel your earning your way abit in life

all im hearing is excuses

than your friend should stay there but look for another job. shop work has always been dogs body work, for people like that then factory is the best way to go. chances to move up are very common and overtime is normally time and half. i worked night and would get double time. was cool as all i did was eat pizza and play cards lol

Scampi you are the most small minded ignorant person I have heard in a long while. You think you can just walk into a job if you want to. I have applied to every supermarket around me several times in the last year and am yet to even get a reply let alone the job. Most interviews I have been to I am up against 10 people for 1 position and the person who gets the job either has experience in a similar role or knows someone who works there so I don't really stand a chance. After doing this for several weeks/ months it gets a little disheartaning. After I lost my job after christmas I went to give my CV to all the job agencies and none of them would take them because they already had too many. I am not sure what world you live in but thinking you can just walk into a job if you want one is just idiotic.