What The Hell Does Jesus Have To Do With Grilling? O.o

Oh god....Not another Religion thread

lolol

I thought this was about barbecues :/

Excuse me while I butt in;
Hahahahaha! This topic made my entire day. I can't wait until over zealous religious nuts start taping Christian warnings on like, boxes of condoms.

Idk, i guessed it was since it mentioned Jesus :3

Condoms: Children killers? Or something like that

LOL, I was thinking more along the lines of the whole 'no sex before marriage' thing, but that works too.

PS - love the irony in the title ?

Notice it's always ugly people who couldn't have sex until marriage that always promote this?

I say that because they way abstinence is taught does almost no good. Methods are outdated and people still have hormones and feelings, religious or not.

Try before you buy?

BTW grill looks good where can I get one?

I like your attitude

I'll save you all some time. Spence is only worthy of window shopping. Do not purchase!

lol

I agree completely. If people are serious about promoting abstinence, they need to appeal to logic, not a belief system people both belonging to and removed from the religion already question.

Also, XD @ Eirinne.

>.>

I hate you

*time for stupid joke*
Jesus has everything to do with a grill, he got burned on the steak!
*no response from crowed*
*cries*

<3 you too Spencirana-ding-dong.

So that explains Jesus' magic.. He was a witch!

Apparently Satan hasn't blinded us to religion, he's just given us a sense of humor!

the show 16 & Pregnant has probably done more for abstinence in the past few seasons (my wife watches these horrific displays every week) than all of the school and church based programs of the past and present combined.

Things like this, with real implications, not slides of gonorrhea showing the true consequences of your actions would make the majority of younger people stop it.

Also society not telling women that unless they make putting out and looking perfect their life might help some of it, cause you know us males have a hard time turning it down when the situation arises.

that is a pretty nice grill.
also NICE, now Jesus is a victim of Immolation as well as being crucified. :D

Massive Wall-o-Text incoming (sorry):


I also used to be a devout Christian. I have since looked closer at what it is I truly believe, and I now label myself Agnostic. One of the many, many reasons I left the Church was the idea that we were expected to force everyone to believe the same as we did. It was preached in my church again and again that anyone who did not believe the same as us, even other religions that weren't exactly the same as us, were all going to hell.

Some examples of the preaching we were expected to do: Some families in the church were expected to go preaching door-to-door. A girl a little younger than me who had gone with her mother to go preaching was morbidly embarrassed when a woman wearing nothing but a bath towel opened the door, with soap in her hair. She'd obviously gotten out of the shower to answer the door, was probably expecting someone else. It was very clear that she was very busy. Instead of leaving, since the woman was busy, the girl's mother forced her to stand there and preach at this woman. Do I think the woman was smart for opening the door to someone she didn't know wearing nothing but a bath towel? Absolutely not, what a moron. But was it in any way appropriate for the mother and girl to keep her there to preach at her when she was clearly busy? No. I'd be willing to bet that if the woman had wanted to know more about God or the church, she would have shown up at the church at a time that was convenient for her.

I was given pamphlets at church and told to leave them around my school.

Whenever someone would object to getting preached at, the church would declare that God had BIG plans for that person and that Satan was trying to keep the church away from him/her, so they would go after him/her even more. Honestly. Instead of thinking 'oh, this person isn't interested and wants us to leave them alone, in fact I think we annoy them so let's back off,' they would harass that person MORE for objecting. It was frankly embarrassing.


Here's basic tips that might help the two sides get along:

Do not try to force others to believe the same as you. It's wonderful that Christians have a belief system that makes them happy. They need to understand that not everyone needs such a system, even though yes, their Bible tells them that all people do need it. Please, we've all read the Bible, and at this point it's up to us to decide what we need. In the same way, Atheists should not pick fights with Christians nor try to convert them, either.

Do not leave pamphlets around. It's a cheap shot, not allowing a person to tell you 'no thanks' but instead acting passive-aggressive by leaving bits of paper around. You cannot debate with pamphlets, pamphlets don't listen when you say no thank you, and most of them go straight into the nearest trash can and end up as little more than a waste of paper.

Agree to disagree and move on.

If a Christian would like to convert someone to their beliefs, they should first act like there's a reason to convert. Christian women in my old church were the most gossipy, catty, bitchy people I'd ever met. What incentive does that give people to listen to them? None. Kids in my youth group were the ones at school smoking, drinking, and having sex behind their parents' backs. Great example, lots of reason to want to be just like them. NOT. After you convince someone by example that your way is nicer than theirs, then you can ask if they want to hear about it. If they say no, that means NO. If they say yes, than chatter to your little heart's content.

I find it very easy to get along with just about everyone, simply by truly agreeing to disagree. For example: Am I homosexual? No. Is one of my best friends from high school homosexual? Yes. Is her homosexuality hurting me in any way? No. Then do I give a rip roaring hoot? No. Do I think she should be allowed to love whoever she wishes? Yes! Now try the same thing with religion. Am I religious? No. Do I have friends and family that are religious? Yes. Do either of us try to convert the other? No. We respect each other. For example, I never ask a Christian friend to hang out on Sunday morning because I respect their decision to be in church at that time. And my Christian friends, in turn, do not try to badger me into going to church with them. It works really well. Truly, it does.

FFXI is the work of the devil. true story.

Now all you believers delete your accounts asap.

Oh btw, FFXIAH is the work of the devil as well (ask scragg), so you better get off our evil forums as well.

/thread

/startthread

Go Green. Stop the spread of pamphlets!
Have to agree though, as much as Christian's annoy the crap out of many people with their preaching, we DO egg them on. I think both sides are like mice going for a piece of cheese and getting shocked, but they keep going back anyway.

If I saw that card next to my food I'd look at it then use it as a coaster for my drink lol :P

Serious question, though. The Bible states something along the lines of: all non-Christians are going to hell and each member of the religion should try to convert people to save their souls. Wouldn't choosing to ignore this 'suggestion' be like picking and choosing which of the commandments to follow?
If you're a devout believer, it doesn't really make sense to decide which rules to follow and which to not, even though some rules are far more counterproductive to the validation of the religion.

Impo, religions need to be tweaked for practice in the 21st century. Maybe if they weren't so hardcore, more people would give conversion a second thought. But that being said, it would probably be an insult to the religion itself to do so. Rock and a hard place.

QFT, and I'm sure the Jehova's witnesses don't help much with the situation either.. D: