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What the hell does Jesus have to do with Grilling? O.o
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2010-06-22 16:11:43
No, no, no...you all don't get it.
In actuality Jehovah is ALL ABOUT THE BBQ.
Genesis 4:1-8 says that God favoured Abel's offering of the firstborn of his flock (including the nice fatty portions) over Cain's offering of fruits and grains cultivated from the land. And you know how that turned out. God is obviously all about da grillin'.
The Book of Daniel talks about Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who were three young Israelites tossed into a fiery cauldron when they refused to worship the statue of Nebuchadnezzar II. Their piety was so pure that they were unscorched, even though the soldiers that threw them in there themselves got burned up to a crisp. Perhaps the flier suggesting you embrace God's ways was to help you out in case you get some lighter fluid on your hands accidentally someday...
And of course Revelations 19 and 20 talk at length about the Lake of Fire where not only the False Prophet, but Hades, Death, and the Beast are all cast into. That's like a divine Hibachi right there!
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By Caitsith.Surreal 2010-06-22 16:14:08
Fenrir.Schutz said: No, no, no...you all don't get it.
In actuality Jehovah is ALL ABOUT THE BBQ.
Genesis 4:1-8 says that God favoured Abel's offering of the firstborn of his flock (including the nice fatty portions) over Cain's offering of fruits and grains cultivated from the land. And you know how that turned out. God is obviously all about da grillin'.
The Book of Daniel talks about Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who were three young Israelites tossed into a fiery cauldron when they refused to worship the statue of Nebuchadnezzar II. Their piety was so pure that they were unscorched, even though the soldiers that threw them in there themselves got burned up to a crisp. Perhaps the flier suggesting you embrace God's ways was to help you out in case you get some lighter fluid on your hands accidentally someday...
And of course Revelations 19 and 20 talk at length about the Lake of Fire where not only the False Prophet, but Hades, Death, and the Beast are all cast into. That's like a divine Hibachi right there!
I want some bbq ribs ; ;
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By Cerberus.Maryanne 2010-06-22 16:17:01
No irony intended, but I'm going to go grill some steaks for supper. This thread made me hungry.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-22 16:17:31
Caitsith.Surreal said:
I want some bbq ribs ; ;
me too..gonna get some after work now. nomnomnom.
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By Caitsith.Surreal 2010-06-22 16:17:50
Cerberus.Maryanne said: No irony intended, but I'm going to go grill some steaks for supper. This thread made me hungry.
Nice! I envy you :( I'm not allowed to have a grill where I am lol.
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By Cerberus.Maryanne 2010-06-22 16:17:57
I've never lit a grill before. Propane tanks scare me. If I die, ILY guys.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-06-22 16:19:55
I refuse to use propane to grill with <_< but I've lit plenty.. Just barely turn the gas on and light as quickly as you can, only turn it up once the gas is lit.
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2010-06-22 16:20:24
Caitsith.Surreal said: I want some bbq ribs ; ;
There is always grilled cheese, too for a moving religious experience...
http://mikesplace.freeserverhost.com/virgi...lled_cheese.htm
The original was so popular it went for $28,000.00 USD...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4034787.stm
...but you can get 2 pans here for only $29.99 USD...
http://www.jesuspan.com/
...that's just Sacrilicious! :9~
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By Caitsith.Surreal 2010-06-22 16:23:54
Hmm.. lol, I should buy one, the 29.99 one at least XD
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-06-22 16:35:23
Liela-
Sounds like you were at a church that was too focused on the fundamental history of the church and its image than it was actually changing peoples lives, and making true disciples of Christ.
I'm sorry to hear that the ignorance and distance from the true nature of the Lord from that church has driven you away.
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By Cerberus.Maryanne 2010-06-22 16:35:52
Apparently we're out of propane, either that or I'm REALLY dumb. =/ Stupid breasts making me grill-retarded. Oh well, that's what a griddle is for!
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-06-22 16:39:25
There should be two knobs, one on the grill and one on the tank, or maybe in three if the hose that connects to the tank has a shut off valve as well <_<
.i. propane, charcoal is supperior anyways. Propane grills are just portable outdoor stoves, they're not even grills >.<
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By Cerberus.Maryanne 2010-06-22 16:43:24
Boyfriend checked, it's just out of propane. Woot, I'm not totally retarded ^_^
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-06-22 16:43:50
Cerberus.Maryanne said: Serious question, though. The Bible states something along the lines of: all non-Christians are going to hell and each member of the religion should try to convert people to save their souls. Wouldn't choosing to ignore this 'suggestion' be like picking and choosing which of the commandments to follow?
If you're a devout believer, it doesn't really make sense to decide which rules to follow and which to not, even though some rules are far more counterproductive to the validation of the religion.
Impo, religions need to be tweaked for practice in the 21st century. Maybe if they weren't so hardcore, more people would give conversion a second thought. But that being said, it would probably be an insult to the religion itself to do so. Rock and a hard place.
Your first statement is 100% correct. If we are following fully we can't pick and choose which scriptures to follow, and which to ignore. The same thing can be said for both sides about quoting scripture. I hate when people (either for or against Christianity) crop excerpts from the Bible to push a point they are trying to make. Most usually, when you take the rest of that verse, or chapter, or book and put the context back around whatever it was the person cut out...it actually says something quite different.
As for your second point, that is somewhat true (kinda along the same lines as the out-of-date abstinence concept) but as far as we believe, that if you read the Bible correctly, its basic principles are timeless: ie. work no matter what age they are applied in. If you want to PM me I can give you a fairly detailed example of where the example itself has no bearing in today's world...but the principle of the matter works just as well today..I won't post the wall of text and detract further from this thread.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-22 16:46:34
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: There should be two knobs, one on the grill and one on the tank, or maybe in three if the hose that connects to the tank has a shut off valve as well <_<
.i. propane, charcoal is supperior anyways. Propane grills are just portable outdoor stoves, they're not even grills >.<
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-06-22 16:47:54
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: There should be two knobs, one on the grill and one on the tank, or maybe in three if the hose that connects to the tank has a shut off valve as well <_<
.i. propane, charcoal is supperior anyways. Propane grills are just portable outdoor stoves, they're not even grills >.<

Yeah *** him, he only ever tried it with charcoal once and said it was good, up til that point he'd never even tried it but talked about how propane was supperior.. (no offense to anyone) but if you find propane supperior, it's probably because you don't know the first thing about grillin' <_<
Then again, as I've stated I live in Texas, and in Texas charcoal is king (regardless of what that show makes it seem like)
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-06-22 16:51:18
I use propane because I'm lazy.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-22 16:51:36
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: There should be two knobs, one on the grill and one on the tank, or maybe in three if the hose that connects to the tank has a shut off valve as well <_<
.i. propane, charcoal is supperior anyways. Propane grills are just portable outdoor stoves, they're not even grills >.<

Yeah *** him, he only ever tried it with charcoal once and said it was good, up til that point he'd never even tried it but talked about how propane was supperior.. (no offense to anyone) but if you find propane supperior, it's probably because you don't know the first thing about grillin' <_<
Then again, as I've stated I live in Texas, and in Texas charcoal is king (regardless of what that show makes it seem like) i'm pretttttty sure the whole propane deal is a joke.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-06-22 16:56:00
I know propane is a joke, it sucks!
Seriously though, if it is meant to be sarcastic/joke in the show, I never caught on.. I can be pretty dense sometimes.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2010-06-22 17:00:51
If it was your only means of income in a small town, wouldn't you be in denial that it was superior to its competition?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-22 17:03:05
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: I know propane is a joke, it sucks!
Seriously though, if it is meant to be sarcastic/joke in the show, I never caught on.. I can be pretty dense sometimes. Mike Judge is a crazy guy, I know it came out in '97 so if you can put that into perspective the core joke of it is kind of amusing.
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By Gilgamesh.Shayala 2010-06-22 17:08:33
Ifrit.Daemun said: Valefor.Annikahansen said: but more than that, how can they assume, with all the religions (we're in the US) that their customers are all christian? It's obvious that they assume not all of their customers are Christians. Looks to me like they are using a unique way to try to reach others. You definitely can't argue the nature of their beliefs; and I, for one, fully support the ballsy move. Whether you are Christian or not (which I am), it's quite infantile to be 'offended' by someone sharing the most influential part of their existence with you.
I do not want anyone of any religion sharing their belief with me in this way. I can't stand it when Jehovas Witnesses or Mormons come to my door either. I usually tell them i'm a Satanist (i'm not) and i'm going to invoke him to steal their souls if they don't go away.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-22 17:11:32
I want a Jehovas witness to come to my door. I'd pretty much bug them till they blacklisted me on their hitlist.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-06-22 17:11:48
Gilgamesh.Shayala said: Ifrit.Daemun said: Valefor.Annikahansen said: but more than that, how can they assume, with all the religions (we're in the US) that their customers are all christian? It's obvious that they assume not all of their customers are Christians. Looks to me like they are using a unique way to try to reach others. You definitely can't argue the nature of their beliefs; and I, for one, fully support the ballsy move. Whether you are Christian or not (which I am), it's quite infantile to be 'offended' by someone sharing the most influential part of their existence with you.
I do not want anyone of any religion sharing their belief with me in this way. I can't stand it when Jehovas Witnesses or Mormons come to my door either. I usually tell them i'm a Satanist (i'm not) and i'm going to invoke him to steal their souls if they don't go away.
Video or it didn't happen :p (really I just wanna see this)
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-06-22 17:14:58
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Gilgamesh.Shayala said: Ifrit.Daemun said: Valefor.Annikahansen said: but more than that, how can they assume, with all the religions (we're in the US) that their customers are all christian? It's obvious that they assume not all of their customers are Christians. Looks to me like they are using a unique way to try to reach others. You definitely can't argue the nature of their beliefs; and I, for one, fully support the ballsy move. Whether you are Christian or not (which I am), it's quite infantile to be 'offended' by someone sharing the most influential part of their existence with you.
I do not want anyone of any religion sharing their belief with me in this way. I can't stand it when Jehovas Witnesses or Mormons come to my door either. I usually tell them i'm a Satanist (i'm not) and i'm going to invoke him to steal their souls if they don't go away.
Video or it didn't happen :p (really I just wanna see this) What ya gotta do is kidnap the only black midget jehovas witness you know of and trap him in your closet because you are mentally handicapped and are convinced that he is a troll.
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By Gilgamesh.Shayala 2010-06-22 17:15:16
The Jehovas Witnesses haven't been round for a couple of weeks now but i'll definitely consider videoing the exchange next time they do.
I think my reaction makes them want to convert me even more though. lol
I'm happy to let anyone have any religious belief they like, if it makes their lives more bearable and doesn't harm anyone then good for them! Just please do not try to convert me or push your religion onto me.
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-22 17:26:16
Odin.Liela said: <long story>
I really wish more Christians could be like your family. At the same times I wish more atheists could be like you.
What matters most IMO is mutual respect. Live and let live right?
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By Caitsith.Surreal 2010-06-22 17:26:18
Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The Jehovas Witnesses haven't been round for a couple of weeks now but i'll definitely consider videoing the exchange next time they do.
I think my reaction makes them want to convert me even more though. lol
I'm happy to let anyone have any religious belief they like, if it makes their lives more bearable and doesn't harm anyone then good for them! Just please do not try to convert me or push your religion onto me.
It makes me lol when I see Jehovas Witnesses go onto private property and start preaching.. :x
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-22 17:34:01
You would think those interested in spiritual salvation and changing their lifestyle or line of thinking to something more based on faith would inquire other religious followers with questions and given interest on the subject.
Sadly you got really crazy folks that have to forcefully impose their belief system on others without any consideration or empathy for how others might take to being randomly alienated.
If I felt like my life was spiraling out of control and there was nowhere left to go or nothing left to do and perhaps the only way out of a rut would be to life myself to a divine level with faith and worship, I would consult my nearest priest.... Until I do, don't bother me plz.
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2010-06-22 18:19:53
Ifrit.Daemun said: Your first statement is 100% correct. If we are following fully we can't pick and choose which scriptures to follow, and which to ignore. The same thing can be said for both sides about quoting scripture. I hate when people (either for or against Christianity) crop excerpts from the Bible to push a point they are trying to make. Most usually, when you take the rest of that verse, or chapter, or book and put the context back around whatever it was the person cut out...it actually says something quite different.
As for your second point, that is somewhat true (kinda along the same lines as the out-of-date abstinence concept) but as far as we believe, that if you read the Bible correctly, its basic principles are timeless: ie. work no matter what age they are applied in. If you want to PM me I can give you a fairly detailed example of where the example itself has no bearing in today's world...but the principle of the matter works just as well today..I won't post the wall of text and detract further from this thread.
All joking aside, part of the problem with faithfully following every dogmatic aspect of the Old and New Testaments is that there are many conflicts regarding the nature of salvation, and whether orthodoxy or orthopraxy is the actual means to spiritual salvation.
Not to spam out a wall of text for you either, but as a fellow Christian, you might consider these articles an interesting read during spare time (like there is any of that with the new update)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_law_in_Christianity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism
...as the very definition of what constitutes "God's Laws", whether Mosaic Law, the New Covenant of Jesus, a combination thereof, and which applies to Jews and which applies to Gentile converts of Judaism and which applies to all Christians, isn't unfortunately clear-cut--even to Jews, Catholics, or Protestants. This is further confounded by Jesus's claim not to want to do away with the old (Mosaic) laws but to add to them, but then gives many parables where he contradicts the old Mosaic Law as practiced by the Pharisees, who also believed in strict orthodox observance and practice.
So, to me personally as a "Cafeteria Catholic", I have a more orthopraxic view and unlike most Catholics who aren't encouraged to read the Biblical works for personal understanding, I tend to agree more with the antinomial Protestant view on religious salvation.
Being of such a perspective, I often find it difficult to deal with orthodox Protestants that seek to be very true to a dogmatic reading of the Bible when they don't consider which parts may or may not even be applicable to a given situation (such as intolerance of gays through strict reading of Leviticus, which is part of Mosaic Law and is arguably applicable only to Jews, and only actually applies to gay men and not to lesbians, etc.)
Okay, so the cover for our new grill came in today, and attatched to the invoice was this card pictured below.. WTH does Jesus have to do with grilling??? (sorry for the big pics, didn't take the time to resize them.)

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