R.I.P The Last Airbender

Language: JP EN DE FR
New Items
2019-12-13
users online
Forum » Everything Else » Culture and Media » R.I.P The Last Airbender
R.I.P The Last Airbender
 Cerberus.Salira
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: salira
Posts: 10
By Cerberus.Salira 2010-08-12 13:20:07
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Pandemonium.Scrumpet said:
Cerberus.Salira said:
THIS IS NOT ANIME. this is an american style cartoon. that is all.

This doesn't make me an ??? then! :D


if i could read squillies that would be awesome...but i can't. stuck with romaji currently xD
 Ramuh.Haseyo
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: Haseyo
Posts: 22442
By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-08-12 13:20:50
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Cerberus.Salira said:
Pandemonium.Scrumpet said:
Cerberus.Salira said:
THIS IS NOT ANIME. this is an american style cartoon. that is all.

This doesn't make me an ??? then! :D


if i could read squillies that would be awesome...but i can't. stuck with romaji currently xD

It translated to "geek" on the site I use, lol.
 Unicorn.Jewkitten
Offline
Server: Unicorn
Game: FFXI
user: Jewkitten
Posts: 224
By Unicorn.Jewkitten 2010-08-12 13:24:03
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I just got done watching the entire animated series of Avatar: The Last Airbender and I must say I thoroughly enjoyed it!!!

I have not seen the movie yet and am afraid too... there is just no way a hollywood movie could capture the HUMOR that made the animated show so entertaining... plus the "let's make everyone caucasian and blonde" is really tiring :(

If they where serious about the franchise they would make 1 long, lovingly made live action movie for each "book/chapter" of the series and a 4th movie for the finale.

But noooo, *** it all up in one shot ftl!:(
 Pandemonium.Scrumpet
Offline
Server: Pandemonium
Game: FFXI
user: Scrumpet
Posts: 3727
By Pandemonium.Scrumpet 2010-08-12 13:24:25
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Cerberus.Salira said:

if i could read squillies that would be awesome...but i can't. stuck with romaji currently xD

It translated to "geek" on the site I use, lol.

Otaku (???/???) (oh-tah-kooh) is a Japanese term used to refer to people with obsessive interests, particularly anime, manga, or video games.

Source: Wikipedia.
 Cerberus.Salira
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: salira
Posts: 10
By Cerberus.Salira 2010-08-12 13:25:28
Link | Quote | Reply
 
yeah know what otaku is..but just didn't know the Japanese written was lol.
 Ramuh.Haseyo
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: Haseyo
Posts: 22442
By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-08-12 13:27:37
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Pandemonium.Scrumpet said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Cerberus.Salira said:

if i could read squillies that would be awesome...but i can't. stuck with romaji currently xD

It translated to "geek" on the site I use, lol.

Otaku (???/???) (oh-tah-kooh) is a Japanese term used to refer to people with obsessive interests, particularly anime, manga, or video games.

Source: Wikipedia.

I went to Otakon this year. I know what an otaku is >:o
 Phoenix.Darki
Offline
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: Darki
Posts: 9949
By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-12 13:28:24
Link | Quote | Reply
 
avatar is kind of cartoonish anime... not pure anime.
 Fenrir.Tool
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-12 13:28:35
Link | Quote | Reply
 
The only halfway decent interpretation/adaptation from comic/anime/video game to movie was Watchmen. And even then, some parts were iffy if you were a devout fan of the comic.

Everything else has been extremely disappointing.
 Lakshmi.Jaerik
Administrator
Offline
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Jaerik
Posts: 3834
By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-08-12 13:28:57
Link | Quote | Reply
 
The Japanese usage of the word otaku and the Western usage could not be any more different in implication.

"Geek" is not a terribly good translation because it has gradually lost its negative, "abject social failure" meaning in English, and has actually become a badge of pride in some circles.

No one would be caught dead going to something called "Otakon" in Japan. It would be like going to Pedokon.
 Caitsith.Zefiris
Offline
Server: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
user: Zefiris
Posts: 2401
By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-08-12 13:30:31
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I was optimistic about the movie even after everyone said it sucked. I wanted to like the movie, but after watching it for about 5 min, I was so sad. T_T The show was amazing, the movie was so awkward it's beyond words. Anyway, pic related.

 Fenrir.Tool
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-12 13:30:35
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Phoenix.Darki said:
avatar is kind of cartoonish anime... not pure anime.

Question is, is it a manner of culture or style/use of animation that differs between what we consider anime or a cartoon?
 Phoenix.Darki
Offline
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: Darki
Posts: 9949
By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-12 13:30:55
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Fenrir.Tool said:
The only halfway decent interpretation/adaptation from comic/anime/video game to movie was Watchmen. And even then, some parts were iffy if you were a devout fan of the comic.

Everything else has been extremely disappointing.


pfft Watchmen is one of my favorite movies, and we can say x-men:wolverine was also a good adaptation.


tbh I loved everything about both movies, specialy Watchmen, loved the kissing part.
 Phoenix.Darki
Offline
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: Darki
Posts: 9949
By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-12 13:33:04
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Fenrir.Tool said:
Phoenix.Darki said:
avatar is kind of cartoonish anime... not pure anime.

Question is, is it a manner of culture or style/use of animation that differs between what we consider anime or a cartoon?


It's more culture than anything. show the said cartoon on japan, I believe they would see it as a mixture of anime/cartoon, and US seems to view it as anime.

tbh it has very little of anime, it's more cartoonish than anything.
it's just like that jackie chan show, and the animated version of x-men, not really anime but can be confused with it.
 Pandemonium.Scrumpet
Offline
Server: Pandemonium
Game: FFXI
user: Scrumpet
Posts: 3727
By Pandemonium.Scrumpet 2010-08-12 13:37:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
No one would be caught dead going to something called "Otakon" in Japan. It would be like going to Pedokon.

I love you. c:
 Shiva.Flionheart
Offline
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-12 13:38:41
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Pandemonium.Scrumpet said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
The Last airbender was always going to suck, The anime, and the new series of it coming out is all I care about.

Wait, I am confused. Do you like the anime? D:

I love the anime lol.
 Phoenix.Darki
Offline
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: Darki
Posts: 9949
By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-12 13:40:47
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Well avatar is on animefreak.tv
so i guess its considered anime.
 Fenrir.Tool
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-12 13:41:32
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
The Japanese usage of the word otaku and the Western usage could not be any more different in implication.

"Geek" is not a terribly good translation because it has gradually lost its negative, "abject social failure" meaning in English, and has actually become a badge of pride in some circles.

It's ironic. Geeks are known for their social inadequacy and awkwardness in a general and socially accepted norm. However, when massed, they kind of turn it on its back by making their own community so to speak. But if anything that's just a social circle which tends to show it's true nature of awkwardness to the general public.
 Pandemonium.Scrumpet
Offline
Server: Pandemonium
Game: FFXI
user: Scrumpet
Posts: 3727
By Pandemonium.Scrumpet 2010-08-12 13:41:36
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Phoenix.Darki said:
Well avatar is on animefreak.tv
so i guess its considered anime.

^^b
 Shiva.Flionheart
Offline
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-12 13:43:29
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Cerberus.Salira said:
Leviathan.Remoraforever said:
Seraph.Rafik said:
It sucked so bad. I couldnt finish watching it. I was disappointed with the actors they chose for these roles.

Maybe some actors who actually looked like the ones from the anime would have helped?

The boy that played Aang in the Live-action movie also was the voice-over actor for the series...


actually no he wasn't. the kid in the movie sent in a video audition..he was not the cartoon voice actor.


also. THIS IS NOT ANIME. this is an american style cartoon. that is all.

It's got anime theme's and Anime art styles.


 Asura.Citag
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Citag
Posts: 5078
By Asura.Citag 2010-08-12 13:44:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I felt like the acting is what really made the movie suck. I was surprised with Aang's character though, I thought he was going to be the worst actor, but he ended up being the only one that I thought played the part well. What they should have done is had the Buchheimer direct it instead of freakin m night. Hes such a slob with is movies now its stupid.
 Caitsith.Zefiris
Offline
Server: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
user: Zefiris
Posts: 2401
By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-08-12 13:45:59
Link | Quote | Reply
 
It looks just like anime to me. The only thing that makes it not anime is that it's made by Americans? Are there other qualifications to separate a cartoon from an anime? I have no idea. :x

Edit: I thought the bending was cool to see, but it was so slow in some parts; almost hard to believe you could attack someone with it. o.o I thought the scene near the end where Zuko/Aang were fighting each other without bending (just martial arts) was the coolest fight scene of the movie. :O
 Lakshmi.Jaerik
Administrator
Offline
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Jaerik
Posts: 3834
By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-08-12 13:51:14
Link | Quote | Reply
 
The word "anime" in Japanese refers to all kinds of animation, not just JP animation. So the difference between a "cartoon" and an "anime" is purely a Western designation.

Last Airbender very definitely borrows heavily from Japanese anime art direction and style, but doesn't follow the standard serialized manga baseline plot progression. Nor does it suffer from (usually) Shuueisha editor-controlled fight pacing.

This makes it hard to categorize, but why does it really matter? =)
[+]
 Cerberus.Salira
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: salira
Posts: 10
By Cerberus.Salira 2010-08-12 13:52:46
Link | Quote | Reply
 
yup you got it zefiris. "anime" is meant for japanese cartoons only. just like manga means japanese comics.

usa is comics and cartoons. anime is not a term used for american cartoons =\ it's just wrong.
 Shiva.Flionheart
Offline
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-12 13:53:43
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Cerberus.Salira said:
yup you got it zefiris. "anime" is meant for japanese cartoons only. just like manga means japanese comics.

usa is comics and cartoons. anime is not a term used for american cartoons =\ it's just wrong.
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
The word "anime" in Japanese refers to all kinds of animation, not just JP animation. So the difference between a "cartoon" and an "anime" is purely a Western designation.

Last Airbender very definitely borrows heavily from Japanese anime art direction and style, but doesn't follow the standard serialized manga baseline plot progression. Nor does it suffer from (usually) Shuueisha editor-controlled fight pacing.

This makes it hard to categorize, but why does it really matter? =)
 Caitsith.Zefiris
Offline
Server: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
user: Zefiris
Posts: 2401
By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-08-12 13:53:51
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
This makes it hard to categorize, but why does it really matter? =)
Idk, people make a big deal about labels!
 Ramuh.Vinvv
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: vinvv
Posts: 15542
By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-12 14:03:02
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Pfft. Nickelodeon.
Animorphs=way better.
[+]
 Bahamut.Stanflame
Offline
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Stanflame
Posts: 6173
By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-08-12 14:10:06
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Pandemonium.Scrumpet said:
Was anyone seriously disappointed at the difference between the movie "The Last Airbender" and the anime?!

Seriously? I enjoy the whole live action thing but this movie seems like they wanted to rush through everything?!

Anyone remember that scene with the earthbenders when 5 of them were "bending" and a tiny rock just flew by the screen -____-;

See the video attached.



Edit: This is NOT my YouTube video.

I heard the creator of the show was on the set, but the Director (signs) would not listen to anything he said, because of this he left.

He probably was not doing what he wanted, or was not listening to him. He always ruins stuff, all he had was the sixth sense which turned out good. After that most of his work was not really good, I usually saw complaints about them. On top of that his directing style , and how he did not listen to no one on the Last Air Bender Set.

The movie sucked, it sucked, it sucked. It would have been better following the series. He changed so much stuff, I did not know what I was watching, I stopped in the middle of the movie.
 Ramuh.Vinvv
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: vinvv
Posts: 15542
By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-12 14:25:08
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Bahamut.Stanflame said:

Everyone should reconsider their opinion about this show since Stan is apparently very passionate about it.
 Ramuh.Haseyo
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: Haseyo
Posts: 22442
By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-08-12 14:27:53
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
No one would be caught dead going to something called "Otakon" in Japan. It would be like going to Pedokon.

We surveyed about 300 people at Otakon. 3:1 said they'd go to a Pedokon. :o

That, I actually didn't find that many underaged girls at Otakon. Unless you consider 18 underaged.
 Ramuh.Vinvv
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: vinvv
Posts: 15542
By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-12 14:28:46
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
No one would be caught dead going to something called "Otakon" in Japan. It would be like going to Pedokon.

We surveyed about 300 people at Otakon. 3:1 said they'd go to a Pedokon. :o
That's because you all are a bunch of degenerates.
Log in to post.