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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-08-12 14:31:36
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
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Everyone should reconsider their opinion about this show since Stan is apparently very passionate about it.

The show is good, who has not watched Avatar. But the director ruined any shot at a damn new series if one could be created.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-12 14:32:46
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Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:

Everyone should reconsider their opinion about this show since Stan is apparently very passionate about it.

The show is good, who has not watched Avatar. But the director ruined any shot at a damn new series if one could be created.
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-08-12 14:35:40
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:

Everyone should reconsider their opinion about this show since Stan is apparently very passionate about it.

The show is good, who has not watched Avatar. But the director ruined any shot at a damn new series if one could be created.
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.

There was nothing to continue from, but ended well. But that movie was horrible.
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By Cerberus.Lumei 2010-08-12 14:36:17
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I think the worst part of the movie for me was near the end when they cut the whole love story between Sokka and the Princess, and made it just exposition. Then she dies and and he's all "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO." Then they quick cut to some other crap and back to Sokka and he's all "Who's this ***?" and totally isn't phased at all by her death. They ruined one of the pivitoal moments in that season, and alot of character development. Also Zuko annoyed the ever living *** outta me. He constantly looked liked he wanted to cry in a corner and start cutting himself. He wasn't the arrogant brat prince, he was a whiney little emo kid :< "DADDY DOESNT LOVE ME AND BURNED MY FACE /cut /wrist"
 
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-12 14:37:55
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.

Are you secretly Justin Timberlake?
WTF how did you know?

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derp.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-08-12 14:38:02
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.

Are you secretly Justin Timberlake's, lover?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-12 14:38:39
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Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Bismarck.Josiahkf said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.

Are you secretly Justin Timberlake's, lover?
I wish.
He's a sexy beast man.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-12 14:38:41
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Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Bismarck.Josiahkf said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.

Are you secretly Justin Timberlake's, lover?

Implied homosexuality proves you're unsure about your own sexuality.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-12 14:39:54
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Bismarck.Josiahkf said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.

Are you secretly Justin Timberlake's, lover?

Implied homosexuality proves you're unsure about your own sexuality.
I always thought the impending posts would make him think I was gay :/
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-08-12 14:40:13
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Bismarck.Josiahkf said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.

Are you secretly Justin Timberlake's, lover?

Implied homosexuality proves you're unsure about your own sexuality.

Sorry I love women, 100%.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-12 14:40:28
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Bismarck.Josiahkf said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.

Are you secretly Justin Timberlake's, lover?

Implied homosexuality proves you're unsure about your own sexuality.
I always thought the impending rape posts would make him think I was gay :/

Oh well, If I could I'd tie him down and anally rape him.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-12 14:40:38
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Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Bismarck.Josiahkf said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.

Are you secretly Justin Timberlake's, lover?

Implied homosexuality proves you're unsure about your own sexuality.

Sorry I love women, 100%.
You aren't even a little curious?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-12 14:40:57
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Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Bismarck.Josiahkf said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
That's a good thing.
I hope you cry a million tears.

Are you secretly Justin Timberlake's, lover?

Implied homosexuality proves you're unsure about your own sexuality.

Sorry I love women, 100%.

Cousins don't count Stan.
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By Pandemonium.Scrumpet 2010-08-12 14:42:16
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Damnit! I always forget to put in my OP post "Inb4 trolls!"

Right thread! '-')b
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-12 14:42:36
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same thing as what i said in the other thread scrumpet :D
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-08-12 14:49:06
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Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Sorry I love women, 100%.
"Do y'like chocolate?"
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-08-12 14:49:57
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Sorry I love women, 100%.
"Do y'like chocolate?"

What type of chocolate ; ;.
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By Darki 2010-08-12 14:50:53
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
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Sorry I love women, 100%.
"Do y'like chocolate?"
wtf
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By Alexander.Taryyn 2010-08-12 14:51:12
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smells like a trap...
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By Darki 2010-08-12 14:54:13
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wtf
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By Pandemonium.Scrumpet 2010-08-12 14:54:56
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
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Sorry I love women, 100%.
"Do y'like chocolate?"

I love you! c:
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-08-12 14:55:14
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Ron White reference.

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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-08-12 14:55:58
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it's youtube, ew.
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By Fenrir.Parak 2010-08-12 14:58:01
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I went and saw it just because I am a die hard fan of the TV series... I wanted to go ape shiz on ShaymayMcNardo. Why did he have to butcher such a good storyline?!
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By Sylph.Maruraba 2010-08-12 14:58:02
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Weighing in on this topic because I'm bored. Yay, time killing!

??? (otaku) does have a much harsher social implication in Japan, as Jaerik said, though if you are one, it's okay to call yourself one, just not for others to call you that. Sort of empowerment-disempowerment, like black people using the N-word or gay people calling themselves f*gs.

The word "anime" does mean any kind of animation in Japan, but here (the US) it seems to really imply something Japanese. I wouldn't take issue, but I know some people don't seem to realize that it is a home-grown creation, NOT something we imported and dubbed. But, it seems most people here know that, so, meh, whatever makes you happy. :)

The problem with this film is that it didn't respect its fanbase. You can do a lot of tweaking to adapt something if you hold to the "feel" of something. For example, Batman (the Tim Burton film) and the more recent Dark Knight. Both films took some liberties, like Tim Burton's film making the Joker the killer of Batman's parents and his "no killing" rule being a bit relaxed, and the Joker in the Dark Knight using makeup and no gag props or chemicals. But both films understood the idea of a self-made nocturnal badass who scares criminals shitless fighting a homicidal clown who makes you laugh one minute and horrifies you the next, making a character that is both comical and terrifying. They stuck to the core feel of what Batman is supposed to be.

The Last Airbender, by contrast, removed the light-heartedness, the easy-going balance between comedy and drama that made the animated series so charming and addictive, and then had the gaul to imply that the fans had been pronouncing character's names wrong the whole time. The fans of the show would fuel its success more than people who were totally unfamiliar with the concept, and they didn't deliver.

Lesson for future film-makers: if you're doing an adaptation, don't piss off the fanbase.
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-08-12 14:58:16
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It seems like you guys would get tired bickering with one another. :O But then again, boredom is an ugly beast. ._.
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-08-12 15:04:49
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Sylph.Maruraba said:
I wouldn't take issue, but I know some people don't seem to realize that it is a home-grown creation, NOT something we imported and dubbed. But, it seems most people here know that, so, meh, whatever makes you happy. :)

Oh, that's a good point Maru. ^^ People make it seem like only the Japanese can make Asian inspired cartoons with elements of martial arts, comedy, mysticism, among other things, so I guess it's kinda nice to note that this genre isn't exclusive to one country of origin. But it'd be nice if people could enjoy things like this without going into a puritanical rage of sorts(in regard to its origin). XD I hope this post isn't a contradiction in itself. x.x
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-08-12 15:05:47
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Sylph.Maruraba said:
Weighing in on this topic because I'm bored. Yay, time killing!

??? (otaku) does have a much harsher social implication in Japan, as Jaerik said, though if you are one, it's okay to call yourself one, just not for others to call you that. Sort of empowerment-disempowerment, like black people using the N-word or gay people calling themselves f*gs.

The word "anime" does mean any kind of animation in Japan, but here (the US) it seems to really imply something Japanese. I wouldn't take issue, but I know some people don't seem to realize that it is a home-grown creation, NOT something we imported and dubbed. But, it seems most people here know that, so, meh, whatever makes you happy. :)

The problem with this film is that it didn't respect its fanbase. You can do a lot of tweaking to adapt something if you hold to the "feel" of something. For example, Batman (the Tim Burton film) and the more recent Dark Knight. Both films took some liberties, like Tim Burton's film making the Joker the killer of Batman's parents and his "no killing" rule being a bit relaxed, and the Joker in the Dark Knight using makeup and no gag props or chemicals. But both films understood the idea of a self-made nocturnal badass who scares criminals shitless fighting a homicidal clown who makes you laugh one minute and horrifies you the next, making a character that is both comical and terrifying. They stuck to the core feel of what Batman is supposed to be.

The Last Airbender, by contrast, removed the light-heartedness, the easy-going balance between comedy and drama that made the animated series so charming and addictive, and then had the gaul to imply that the fans had been pronouncing character's names wrong the whole time. The fans of the show would fuel its success more than people who were totally unfamiliar with the concept, and they didn't deliver.

Lesson for future film-makers: if you're doing an adaptation, don't piss off the fanbase.
you have to keep in mind that you are talking about a television show that aired on Nick.
I doubt this show was gauged specifically towards the fanbase.
I haven't seen the movie myself, but since I didn't watch the anime, I won't have any preconcieved notions.
They adapted the film to be more entertaining via film I assume, usually when they do that they risk either a major hit or a flop.
Most of the time they don't do movies that are related to Japanese animation(atleast in style) justice.
Ex. would be dragon ball.

I honestly wouldn't care about the "fanbase" of previous, but the new fanbase of people who don't know the series, or chose not to watch it like myself.
It's all about the big $
making it completely a kids film like the anime would be probably wouldn't get the action buff sheeps dropping their 10-20 bucks on 3d movies.

i really think it wouldn't sell as much if they went in with the same kind of idea that the series did, but then i haven't watched much into it so I'll find out eventually once I get a good rip of the movie.


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By Sylph.Maruraba 2010-08-12 15:05:57
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Caitsith.Zefiris said:
It seems like you guys would get tired bickering with one another. :O But then again, boredom is an ugly beast. ._.
Yes it is, Zefiris, yes it is. Weird, too, it was a nice "god we hate this movie" thread until it degenerated a bit.

I guess it's just disappointing for so many of us that there was so much potential there and it just got squandered.

Now, who wants to see how badly they *** up "Cowboy Bebop?" :D

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They adapted the film to be more entertaining via film I assume, usually when they do that they risk either a major hit or a flop.
Most of the time they don't do movies that are related to Japanese animation(atleast in style) justice.
Ex. would be dragon ball.

I honestly wouldn't care about the "fanbase" of previous, but the new fanbase of people who don't know the series, or chose not to watch it like myself.
It's all about the big $
making it completely a kids film like the anime would be probably wouldn't get the action buff sheeps dropping their 10-20 bucks on 3d movies.

i really think it wouldn't sell as much if they went in with the same kind of idea that the series did, but then i haven't watched much into it so I'll find out eventually once I get a good rip of the movie.
You make some good points, granted, but word of mouth would get butts into those seats, and the fanbase is rapidly badmouthing it.

As for the series, yes, it was made for kids, but quite a few adults enjoy it as well, and the martial arts in the series are authentic. Several martial artists have commented that they look LESS authentic in the film.

And if you want evidence of the film's failure to entice people to see it... well, you're planning to wait for a decent rip of it instead of going to the theater, and odds are you're not the only one. :)
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