Blue Mage Job Adjustments - Answers To User Sugg.
Blue Mage Job Adjustments - Answers to User Sugg.
Pfft! Who cares what skill improves our healing! White wind just better not suck! NUFF SAID!
Asura.Erics said: »
Pfft! Who cares what skill improves our healing! White wind just better not suck! NUFF SAID!
You right.
Carbuncle.Shokox said: »
SAY WOT. Triple Attack? Treasure Hunter?
HIGH POWERED HNM SPELLS? White Wind?
I might have to stick around just to see how well these things are added.
Wish someone asked a Tizona question however.
HIGH POWERED HNM SPELLS? White Wind?
I might have to stick around just to see how well these things are added.
Wish someone asked a Tizona question however.
CHOCOLATE CHOCOBO <3
anyone use an eva sword?
Odin.Blazza said: »
What's so illogical about a healing SJ giving a buff to healing spells? Word it however you want, but that's what it comes down to.
It's not that fact THAT a sub enhances BLU cures (that's great, awesome even) but rather that ONLY subs do so.
Blue Magic Skill has 0 effect on it, that is the point.
But I've come to the conclusion that some ppl seem to not read posts at all or aren't able to understand the words in them.
It also apears that ppl would be thankful if the same would be the case for WHM. Take away their Healing Magic Skill and make their cures enhanced by, idk, Elemental Magic Skill, since it can be considered a nuke against undead mobs. I can see even more logic in that.
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »
Yeah, I'm guessing Harden Shell on the HNM spells will give a 30 minute Pro+Shell IV-V effect. And that ability to cast an HNM spell every 5 minutes will be used up to cast that before doing much of anything else unless you brought support.
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
I know that some people want HNM spells to be full time but if they do that they are all likely to simply be a small improvement to what we have. Limiting them to a 5 minute JA gives them the ability to be very much more powerful. They may do it well, they may not but I'll wait till they do to say so. I'm looking forward to it.
Carbuncle.Grandthief said: »
But I've come to the conclusion that some ppl seem to not read posts at all or aren't able to understand the words in them.
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Carbuncle.Grandthief said: »
Odin.Blazza said: »
What's so illogical about a healing SJ giving a buff to healing spells? Word it however you want, but that's what it comes down to.
It's not that fact THAT a sub enhances BLU cures (that's great, awesome even) but rather that ONLY subs do so.
Blue Magic Skill has 0 effect on it, that is the point.
But I've come to the conclusion that some ppl seem to not read posts at all or aren't able to understand the words in them.
It also apears that ppl would be thankful if the same would be the case for WHM. Take away their Healing Magic Skill and make their cures enhanced by, idk, Elemental Magic Skill, since it can be considered a nuke against undead mobs. I can see even more logic in that.
I'm having a hard time figuring out why half of this thread is arguing over blu healing spells. I understand the line of thinking you're using. I read your posts. I just don't think it matters enough to argue so much about. SE designed blu healing magic this way and I've always been just fine with how well it works. /mage simply adds a needed bonus for support roles. While we're at it lets apply some logic to other parts of this game that make little sense! SE isn't exactly the most logical but logic isn't always balanced either and balance is the main goal.
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Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Carbuncle.Shokox said: »
SAY WOT. Triple Attack? Treasure Hunter?
HIGH POWERED HNM SPELLS? White Wind?
I might have to stick around just to see how well these things are added.
Wish someone asked a Tizona question however.
HIGH POWERED HNM SPELLS? White Wind?
I might have to stick around just to see how well these things are added.
Wish someone asked a Tizona question however.
CHOCOLATE CHOCOBO <3
Seig Choco o.o/
Hopefully all spells HNM spells will be high damaging, considering it'll be on a 5 min timer. The AoE range might be interesting however.
Phoenix.Fondue said: »
anyone use an eva sword?
I do for my full eva build for specific solo/fights.
Phoenix.Fondue said: »
anyone use an eva sword?
i have 1..dont rly use it.
Full eva build is better for CW cleaving than a PDT build imo.
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Full eva build is better for CW cleaving than a PDT build imo.
how is that possible
Evading mobs while gathering them up is better than getting smacked during, also easy to get dream flower/actinic burst off instead of a -interrupt build. Won't be any mob you can't evade easily with a good eva build in gear.
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Won't be any mob you can't evade easily with a good eva build in gear.
This is so right. Finished Sobek as BLU/NIN yesterday for the last 20% after the ninja got smashed up.
I alsmost full time Cloak and Dagger in Abyssea since I have dual Evasion Shamshir. When you do to much damage or people die, I hit a key for evasion set and im up to 500+ Evasion with Utsusemi + Occultation + Flash + Auroral + Head Butt to stay confortably alive.
BLU evasion set is unfortunatly underestimated by a lot of peoples.
I've always underestimated BLU evasion set because of their low *** eva skill plus their wimpy *** tier 1 evasion bonus. Oh wait 30 seconds of feather barrier. I love blu but when I want to evade I switch to DNC
Try it out before you dismiss it. It's a very nice option to use for a wide variety of things ranging from solos to CW burn to holding a mob to proc. I can evade pretty much anything except highly accurate NMs and some hero nm with my set. I have around 333 eva skill (35ish less than THF) and 100+ eva in gear.
I love BLU enough to give it a shot Draylo. When you get a chance would you mind posting your evasion set to give me some ideas? The EVA trials swords would take a little time but willing to get 2 if it gives me an evasion option for BLU that actually works.
This is mine atm:
I use one agi shamshir+2, it works really well. I sometimes set the trait via screwdriver + occultation but not always.
Here is an example via log (didn't get ss)
These mobs were T as well... pigs were lvling them up on me.
I use one agi shamshir+2, it works really well. I sometimes set the trait via screwdriver + occultation but not always.
Here is an example via log (didn't get ss)
These mobs were T as well... pigs were lvling them up on me.
The one thing I still think BLU could use is a Composure ability. I think that would seal the deal for me. Everything else though is icing on the cake... delicious icing...
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The one thing I still think BLU could use is a Composure ability
I'm hoping Merits V.2 would include something along the lines of "Enhances Diffusion Effect". Each tier multiplying the duration of the spell cast.
Not a necessity by any means, but would be nice ^^
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
This is mine atm:
I use one agi shamshir+2, it works really well. I sometimes set the trait via screwdriver + occultation but not always.
Here is an example via log (didn't get ss)
These mobs were T as well... pigs were lvling them up on me.
I use one agi shamshir+2, it works really well. I sometimes set the trait via screwdriver + occultation but not always.
Here is an example via log (didn't get ss)
These mobs were T as well... pigs were lvling them up on me.
Mine is about the same, but I use AF3+2 body when outside, which is when I most commonly use that set anyways. Oh and AGI sachet.
Bimbam said: »
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The one thing I still think BLU could use is a Composure ability
I'm hoping Merits V.2 would include something along the lines of "Enhances Diffusion Effect". Each tier multiplying the duration of the spell cast.
Not a necessity by any means, but would be nice ^^
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Diffusion merits, gross! D:
I put one merit in it back in the day for the practical use when low manning Limbus and having reset chests.
Now I find myself low manning Abyssea, I still find myself using it a lot with reset chests. TBH it comes at the cost of 10TP/CA, I am more than willing to pay it.
That merit I put in convergence about 4 years ago for the aoe-single target ability is looking very defunct though /sigh
Bahamut.Aeronis said: »
Bimbam said: »
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The one thing I still think BLU could use is a Composure ability
I'm hoping Merits V.2 would include something along the lines of "Enhances Diffusion Effect". Each tier multiplying the duration of the spell cast.
Not a necessity by any means, but would be nice ^^
Fully merited diffusion should really be on a 5min recast or something :/
Thanks Draylo, that helps a bunch. Forgot about that head and belt, and I've never seen the alert ring before.
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
This is mine atm:
I use one agi shamshir+2, it works really well. I sometimes set the trait via screwdriver + occultation but not always.
Here is an example via log (didn't get ss)
These mobs were T as well... pigs were lvling them up on me.
I use one agi shamshir+2, it works really well. I sometimes set the trait via screwdriver + occultation but not always.
Here is an example via log (didn't get ss)
These mobs were T as well... pigs were lvling them up on me.
What kinda spell set do you use?
I was thinking of this for a general eva-tank charged burning would be slightly different nixing counter trait for CW and memento
Head Butt
Screwdriver (Evasion Bonus)
Occultation (Evasion Bonus)
Enervation (Counter)
Asuran Claws (Counter)
Disseverment (Accuracy Bonus)
Vanity Dive (Accuracy Bonus)
Sub-zero Smash (Fast Cast)
Auroral Drape (Fast Cast) (aoe blinding mobs)
Actinic Burst (Refresh) (aoe flashing mobs)
Winds of Promyvion (Refresh)
Plenilune Embrace (or fruit depending on mp needs)
Battery Charge
Whirl of Rage (aoe stunning)
Quadratic Continuum
Delta Thrust
I don't include animating cause I have a brd and whm alt who can take care of haste.
I really don't do anything special for it, the eva set by itself is enough to get my evade rate at a very decent level. I normally CW burn with a whm so I don't really set much defense wise. I can one shot everything with just BA + ascetics, I don't normally use enervation/soundblast or anything like that or even buff for that matter. The eva build takes care of my pull long enough for whm to cure me. If I'm solo it would be even easier w/occultation and stoneskin/cocoon. My spell setup is pretty similiar to yours though.
I didn't want to make a whole new post for this, but I'll be adding it to the OP as well. Small update on the blu system:
08-19-2011 02:52 PM
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
I didn't want to make a whole new post for this, but I'll be adding it to the OP as well. Small update on the blu system:
08-19-2011 02:52 PM
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| Just a tiny tidbit of info for the upcoming version update regarding blue mage… We will be revamping the blue magic spell list a bit to make it so the spells can be organized by element as well as level. Current: After the version update: | |||
God they keep making this game easier and easier for casuals
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