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By Fairy.Spence 2012-02-15 19:27:03
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Whining about it on an internet forum isn't helping your cause.

I see countless threads like this. What have any of you done to better the situation?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-02-15 19:27:19
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
No it's just another example of people trying to decide what's better for people while not practicing what they preach. Politicians in general (which is why I stay away from them) tend to have a 'do what I say, not what I do attitude'. I don't care enough to go and find the examples to cite.

It hasn't only been semi-fit/fat *** pols that have attacked this issue. Many celebrities including fit sports stars have jumped on the bandwagon of trying to get kids to eat better and exercise more to much ra ra ra from parents upset they're being called out on the bad job they're doing with their kids. Statistics don't lie.

Some parents do an amazing job of feeding their kids and encouraging a healthy/fit lifestyle but at the end of the day we have a growing problem in America and the question is what are we going to do about it? How many kids should we fail because we're too busy playing politics?

Why is obesity a problem for anyone else but the one who's obese?

AKA why is it any of YOUR business?
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-15 19:29:56
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
No it's just another example of people trying to decide what's better for people while not practicing what they preach. Politicians in general (which is why I stay away from them) tend to have a 'do what I say, not what I do attitude'. I don't care enough to go and find the examples to cite.

It hasn't only been semi-fit/fat *** pols that have attacked this issue. Many celebrities including fit sports stars have jumped on the bandwagon of trying to get kids to eat better and exercise more to much ra ra ra from parents upset they're being called out on the bad job they're doing with their kids. Statistics don't lie.

Some parents do an amazing job of feeding their kids and encouraging a healthy/fit lifestyle but at the end of the day we have a growing problem in America and the question is what are we going to do about it? How many kids should we fail because we're too busy playing politics?

Why is obesity a problem for anyone else but the one who's obese?

AKA why is it any of YOUR business?

because it becomes a problem for the society they live in.

reality says HI!
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2012-02-15 19:37:26
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This is why I think conservatives are hippocrates.

Don't want government healthcare, but don't want to take steps to make the nation healthier through programs like the above.

Don't want abortion, but don't want to adopt or support the millions of welfare babies that it would create.

I could continue.... But it's a waste of time.

This was a doofus mistake made on the part of one person. This isn't some horrible government intrusion into the privacy of a 4 year old as half of you are trying to spin it.

Personally... If I could only send junk with my daughter for lunch I would love it if someone else was helping to looking out for her. Also, should I ever accidentally mis-pack her lunch while rushing around in the morning, I would not argue with the school feeding her instead of having a sad little girl with half a lunch that is to afraid to ask anyone for more.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2012-02-15 19:40:00
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Asura.Arkanethered said: »
hippocrates

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By Artemicion 2012-02-15 19:41:16
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Fairy.Spence said: »
Whining about it on an internet forum isn't helping your cause.

I see countless threads like this. What have any of you done to better the situation?

Raising awareness is a small but valuable outcome of discussing things like this, even in irrelevant forums pertaining to a video game.
Though relevant conversation and (relatively) civil debates and discussions is good food for the mind.
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2012-02-15 19:41:55
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My Iphone is intruding on my first amendment rights...
 
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2012-02-15 19:45:16
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Considering their "implied" stance on government and personal freedoms... They should be hippies.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-02-15 19:45:57
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
also your choices shouldn't ruin your child's life, which is the issue here.

My child's life will be ruined or ENDANGERED if she goes to school with Twinkies and soda? Are you really suggesting that parents are ruin their kids lives by sending them to schools with un-healthy lunches? That's asinine. Even the notion that they're ruining their lives because they've allowed their kids to become fat or obese is ridiculous.

Kids don't always EAT the healthy stuff you sent them to school with you know. Sometimes its better to send them to school with sugary stuff you know they'll eat rather than stuff you know they won't.

Also the idea that the government can provide her a healthier alternative is just plain dumb. On what planet is Turkey sandwich < Chicken nuggets?
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-15 19:48:44
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
also your choices shouldn't ruin your child's life, which is the issue here.

My child's life will be ruined or ENDANGERED if she goes to school with Twinkies and soda? Are you really suggesting that parents are ruin their kids lives by sending them to schools with un-healthy lunches? That's asinine. Even the notion that they're ruining their lives because they've allowed their kids to become fat or obese is ridiculous.

Kids don't always EAT the healthy stuff you sent them to school with you know. Sometimes its better to send them to school with sugary stuff you know they'll eat rather than stuff you know they won't.

Also the idea that the government can provide her a healthier alternative is just plain dumb. On what planet is Turkey sandwich < Chicken nuggets?

then you're naive...
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-02-15 19:49:22
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
No it's just another example of people trying to decide what's better for people while not practicing what they preach. Politicians in general (which is why I stay away from them) tend to have a 'do what I say, not what I do attitude'. I don't care enough to go and find the examples to cite.

It hasn't only been semi-fit/fat *** pols that have attacked this issue. Many celebrities including fit sports stars have jumped on the bandwagon of trying to get kids to eat better and exercise more to much ra ra ra from parents upset they're being called out on the bad job they're doing with their kids. Statistics don't lie.

Some parents do an amazing job of feeding their kids and encouraging a healthy/fit lifestyle but at the end of the day we have a growing problem in America and the question is what are we going to do about it? How many kids should we fail because we're too busy playing politics?

Why is obesity a problem for anyone else but the one who's obese?

AKA why is it any of YOUR business?

because it becomes a problem for the society they live in.

reality says HI!

How is it a problem for society if I'm obese?

I mean really, what the big deal?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-02-15 19:50:09
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Even the notion that they're ruining their lives because they've allowed their kids to become fat or obese is ridiculous.

Actually, it does and will ruin your entire life and that is a problem in this country.


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Also the idea that the government can provide her a healthier alternative is just plain dumb. On what planet is Turkey sandwich < Chicken nuggets?

Stop spinning every *** thing in the world to your political notions. You people are what's wrong with this world.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-02-15 19:50:28
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
also your choices shouldn't ruin your child's life, which is the issue here.

My child's life will be ruined or ENDANGERED if she goes to school with Twinkies and soda? Are you really suggesting that parents are ruin their kids lives by sending them to schools with un-healthy lunches? That's asinine. Even the notion that they're ruining their lives because they've allowed their kids to become fat or obese is ridiculous.

Kids don't always EAT the healthy stuff you sent them to school with you know. Sometimes its better to send them to school with sugary stuff you know they'll eat rather than stuff you know they won't.

Also the idea that the government can provide her a healthier alternative is just plain dumb. On what planet is Turkey sandwich < Chicken nuggets?

then you're naive...
Or you just don't want to tolerate anyone else's lifestyle.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-15 19:51:17
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
No it's just another example of people trying to decide what's better for people while not practicing what they preach. Politicians in general (which is why I stay away from them) tend to have a 'do what I say, not what I do attitude'. I don't care enough to go and find the examples to cite.

It hasn't only been semi-fit/fat *** pols that have attacked this issue. Many celebrities including fit sports stars have jumped on the bandwagon of trying to get kids to eat better and exercise more to much ra ra ra from parents upset they're being called out on the bad job they're doing with their kids. Statistics don't lie.

Some parents do an amazing job of feeding their kids and encouraging a healthy/fit lifestyle but at the end of the day we have a growing problem in America and the question is what are we going to do about it? How many kids should we fail because we're too busy playing politics?

Why is obesity a problem for anyone else but the one who's obese?

AKA why is it any of YOUR business?

because it becomes a problem for the society they live in.

reality says HI!

How is it a problem for society if I'm obese?

I mean really, what the big deal?

see healthcare costs, ada, food costs, etc.

not to mention a less productive workforce in this nation due to inability to work.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-15 19:51:46
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
also your choices shouldn't ruin your child's life, which is the issue here.

My child's life will be ruined or ENDANGERED if she goes to school with Twinkies and soda? Are you really suggesting that parents are ruin their kids lives by sending them to schools with un-healthy lunches? That's asinine. Even the notion that they're ruining their lives because they've allowed their kids to become fat or obese is ridiculous.

Kids don't always EAT the healthy stuff you sent them to school with you know. Sometimes its better to send them to school with sugary stuff you know they'll eat rather than stuff you know they won't.

Also the idea that the government can provide her a healthier alternative is just plain dumb. On what planet is Turkey sandwich < Chicken nuggets?

then you're naive...
Or you just don't want to tolerate anyone else's lifestyle.

that makes no sense...
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-15 19:52:37
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
No it's just another example of people trying to decide what's better for people while not practicing what they preach. Politicians in general (which is why I stay away from them) tend to have a 'do what I say, not what I do attitude'. I don't care enough to go and find the examples to cite.

It hasn't only been semi-fit/fat *** pols that have attacked this issue. Many celebrities including fit sports stars have jumped on the bandwagon of trying to get kids to eat better and exercise more to much ra ra ra from parents upset they're being called out on the bad job they're doing with their kids. Statistics don't lie.

Some parents do an amazing job of feeding their kids and encouraging a healthy/fit lifestyle but at the end of the day we have a growing problem in America and the question is what are we going to do about it? How many kids should we fail because we're too busy playing politics?

Why is obesity a problem for anyone else but the one who's obese?

AKA why is it any of YOUR business?

because it becomes a problem for the society they live in.

reality says HI!

How is it a problem for society if I'm obese?

I mean really, what the big deal?

see healthcare costs, ada, food costs, etc.

not to mention a less productive workforce in this nation due to inability to work.
We need a stronger work force? Unemployment rates are ridiculous, in part because of all the outsourcing..

It's not exactly as if there are millions of jobs out there that aren't filled because people are fat and lazy..
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-15 19:55:52
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slip see current issue; will get worse.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-02-15 19:58:20
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
No it's just another example of people trying to decide what's better for people while not practicing what they preach. Politicians in general (which is why I stay away from them) tend to have a 'do what I say, not what I do attitude'. I don't care enough to go and find the examples to cite.

It hasn't only been semi-fit/fat *** pols that have attacked this issue. Many celebrities including fit sports stars have jumped on the bandwagon of trying to get kids to eat better and exercise more to much ra ra ra from parents upset they're being called out on the bad job they're doing with their kids. Statistics don't lie.

Some parents do an amazing job of feeding their kids and encouraging a healthy/fit lifestyle but at the end of the day we have a growing problem in America and the question is what are we going to do about it? How many kids should we fail because we're too busy playing politics?

Why is obesity a problem for anyone else but the one who's obese?

AKA why is it any of YOUR business?

because it becomes a problem for the society they live in.

reality says HI!

How is it a problem for society if I'm obese?

I mean really, what the big deal?

see healthcare costs, ada, food costs, etc.

not to mention a less productive workforce in this nation due to inability to work.

Why is it your business if I'm not as productive of a worker as you think I should be? How do I affect you if I'm obese? Because I require more medical services? Why not just make me pay for the additional services I require, why do you need to instead regulate what I do?

I mean seriously dude, stop thinking you have some right to force me to live my life or raise my kids in a way that you approve.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-02-15 20:02:08
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I mean seriously dude, stop thinking you have some right to force me to live my life or raise my kids in a way that you approve.

Again, like people have said, its child negligence if you are willingly feeding them unhealthy foods to make them obese. Its borderline child endangerment I'd wager, as well... And the gov't is there/should be there to ensure the safety of its populous. That's what teachers are there for. Like if a teacher sees that a child comes to school with bruises, they contact child services, LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO. Oh but wait, you want the right to beat your children... because it's nobody's business right? gtfo dude..
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-15 20:09:08
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I mean seriously dude, stop thinking you have some right to force me to live my life or raise my kids in a way that you approve.

Again, like people have said, its child negligence if you are willingly feeding them unhealthy foods to make them obese. Its borderline child endangerment I'd wager, as well... And the gov't is there/should be there to ensure the safety of its populous. That's what teachers are there for. Like if a teacher sees that a child comes to school with bruises, they contact child services, LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO. Oh but wait, you want the right to beat your children... because it's nobody's business right? gtfo dude..
Wouldn't this be Straw Man?

I mean do you want to keep going and saying anyone who feeds their child unhealthy food and wants to keep the right to do so, also wants the right to *** their own kid?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-02-15 20:10:22
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
also your choices shouldn't ruin your child's life, which is the issue here.

My child's life will be ruined or ENDANGERED if she goes to school with Twinkies and soda? Are you really suggesting that parents are ruin their kids lives by sending them to schools with un-healthy lunches? That's asinine. Even the notion that they're ruining their lives because they've allowed their kids to become fat or obese is ridiculous.

Kids don't always EAT the healthy stuff you sent them to school with you know. Sometimes its better to send them to school with sugary stuff you know they'll eat rather than stuff you know they won't.

Also the idea that the government can provide her a healthier alternative is just plain dumb. On what planet is Turkey sandwich < Chicken nuggets?

ITT: Twinkies and Soda don't lead to heart disease, diabetes, stroke, obesity and long-term health complications.

Kids learn by what they see around them. Some parents do a good job and should continue to do so but other by circumstance or bad habit pass habits to their kids that lead to long term health problems that eventually affect us all. Children are not adults and are not capable of making decisions for themselves and also should not suffer for their parents poor decisions.

Here's where school - the bastion of education - can come in. If you teach kids that healthy food is the way to go a significant group will take the advice which pays off in the long run for us in lower medical costs, a healthier population and a country that realizes that health is wealth.

Not every person will take in this lesson but at least we can rest assured knowing that we tried.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-02-15 20:11:04
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I mean seriously dude, stop thinking you have some right to force me to live my life or raise my kids in a way that you approve.

Again, like people have said, its child negligence if you are willingly feeding them unhealthy foods to make them obese. Its borderline child endangerment I'd wager, as well... And the gov't is there/should be there to ensure the safety of its populous. That's what teachers are there for. Like if a teacher sees that a child comes to school with bruises, they contact child services, LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO. Oh but wait, you want the right to beat your children... because it's nobody's business right? gtfo dude..

So EVERY parent who has a fat kid or obese kid should have their kids confiscated by a government who'll instead feed them CHICKEN NUGGETS?
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-02-15 20:11:12
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: »
No it's just another example of people trying to decide what's better for people while not practicing what they preach. Politicians in general (which is why I stay away from them) tend to have a 'do what I say, not what I do attitude'. I don't care enough to go and find the examples to cite.

It hasn't only been semi-fit/fat *** pols that have attacked this issue. Many celebrities including fit sports stars have jumped on the bandwagon of trying to get kids to eat better and exercise more to much ra ra ra from parents upset they're being called out on the bad job they're doing with their kids. Statistics don't lie.

Some parents do an amazing job of feeding their kids and encouraging a healthy/fit lifestyle but at the end of the day we have a growing problem in America and the question is what are we going to do about it? How many kids should we fail because we're too busy playing politics?

Why is obesity a problem for anyone else but the one who's obese?

AKA why is it any of YOUR business?

you complain about healthcare and insurance costs
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-02-15 20:14:16
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
So EVERY parent who has a fat kid or obese kid should have their kids confiscated by a government who'll instead feed them CHICKEN NUGGETS?

Enough with the red herrings.

We've already said this case specifically is an isolated incident and doesn't change the fact that something should be done kids being doomed to a laundry list of medical issues because of their parents income/decisions.

What is your solution? Lets hear it. If you say that lobbyists should stop hijacking pols to dump their cardboard pizzas on kids perhaps I could agree with you.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-02-15 20:14:50
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Chill.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-02-15 20:18:43
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »

Why is it your business if I'm not as productive of a worker as you think I should be? How do I affect you if I'm obese? Because I require more medical services? Why not just make me pay for the additional services I require, why do you need to instead regulate what I do?

I mean seriously dude, stop thinking you have some right to force me to live my life or raise my kids in a way that you approve.

You mean when you default on the medical bills.

Lower income individuals are the ones hit hardest by the obesity epidemic and guess what? They don't have money to pay X thousands of dollars to visit a doctor so they'll take the services and just dodge the bills.

Maybe if you'd have educated that kid before they went to hell in a handbasket they wouldn't have had to run up medical bills.
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2012-02-15 20:26:38
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I don't get why schools offer their 'healthy' school lunch, but also have snack carts filled with cookies, chips, and ice cream bars, along with vending machines filled with soda. Also, if it's the poor, inner city parents who send their kids to school with junk, why aren't they already on free/reduced school lunch? Most of the kids I knew who had free lunch just bought candy from the vending machines.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-02-15 20:48:05
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My school used to have a prepaid ticket that you could give for lunch. The free/reduced program gave out these tickets. These tickets didn't work in vending machines.
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