Xbox Exec: No Internet? Get An Xbox 360
Xbox Exec: No Internet? Get an Xbox 360
They will probably support 360 into at least next summer, we know that Dark Souls 2, Titanfall, and Destiny are coming to current gen consoles, three big titles scheduled for Spring 2014.
Cerberus.Cruxus said: »
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Fenrir.Camiie said: »
It isn't guaranteed money, but they're in a better position than they've ever been to profit from used game sales due to DLC and online passes. I'm sure deep down auto manufacturers would love to be able to snuff out the used car market, but even if those sales cut into the sales of new cars there's potential money to be made from the sale of service and parts. Also, trade-ins and used sales help keep the dealerships in business, and that's clearly good for the manufacturers too. Compare that to Gamestop who, love them or hate them, move a lot of new product for the game companies even if they do sell used games too. In the end it's just a cost of doing business that the game companies need to accept.
The problem with that mind set, is like pretty much anything that is made into a copy/mass produced, after initial sale the artist/publisher/whatever no longer owns that individual copy. You sell a book you owned, the publisher nor author receive any royalties. Same goes for a work of art, you buy a statue, decide you want to turn it into liquid funds, the person who forged the creation of that work holds no ownership of that piece outside of the fact that they made it.
Aye, you're absolutely right. And sadly that's a tug-of-war between retailers, users, and publishers. Its just shitty that manufacturers have been caught up in the mix of it as we've seen with the Xbox One.
The only real solution I see to this problem that doesn't completely and utterly alienate the consumer is to adopt the digital marketplaces that PC gamers have embraced for years, as the used game market for PC is downright non-existent.
Fenrir.Camiie said: »
It isn't guaranteed money, but they're in a better position than they've ever been to profit from used game sales due to DLC and online passes.
I'm sure deep down auto manufacturers would love to be able to snuff out the used car market, but even if those sales cut into the sales of new cars there's potential money to be made from the sale of service and parts. Also, trade-ins and used sales help keep the dealerships in business, and that's clearly good for the manufacturers too. Compare that to Gamestop who, love them or hate them, move a lot of new product for the game companies even if they do sell used games too.
In the end it's just a cost of doing business that the game companies need to accept.
I'm sure deep down auto manufacturers would love to be able to snuff out the used car market, but even if those sales cut into the sales of new cars there's potential money to be made from the sale of service and parts. Also, trade-ins and used sales help keep the dealerships in business, and that's clearly good for the manufacturers too. Compare that to Gamestop who, love them or hate them, move a lot of new product for the game companies even if they do sell used games too.
In the end it's just a cost of doing business that the game companies need to accept.
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Microsoft: The Abercrombie & Fitch of the console industry.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that WiiU is the next-gen underdog, and I'm not talking about for casuals.
Wii U is never going to do anything as long as Nintendo doesn't care about bringing in new players. They barely care about bringing back players that have left them.
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I have a sneaking suspicion that WiiU is the next-gen underdog, and I'm not talking about for casuals.
@Drjones
I know I got it for PC first, but I'm too lazy to have to "know" what it takes to craft something. it's the first time I've ever appreciated a dumbed down console version :P
plus my kids play minecraft on xbox, & Ilike to grief them once and while with some TNT.
I know I got it for PC first, but I'm too lazy to have to "know" what it takes to craft something. it's the first time I've ever appreciated a dumbed down console version :P
plus my kids play minecraft on xbox, & Ilike to grief them once and while with some TNT.
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@Vic: The Wii was all about bringing in new players. That was what hurt them in the eyes of the non-casual gamer.
Siren.Mosin said: »
@Drjones
I know I got it for PC first, but I'm too lazy to have to "know" what it takes to craft something. it's the first time I've ever appreciated a dumbed down console version :P
plus my kids play minecraft on xbox, & Ilike to grief them once and while with some TNT.
I know I got it for PC first, but I'm too lazy to have to "know" what it takes to craft something. it's the first time I've ever appreciated a dumbed down console version :P
plus my kids play minecraft on xbox, & Ilike to grief them once and while with some TNT.
You remind me of my friend and his ten-year old son. They play Minecraft on the 360, they do whatever they can to build something and destroy each other's creations.
I think at last count, his son was winning. Lol.
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
@Vic: The Wii was all about bringing in new players. That was what hurt them in the eyes of the non-casual gamer.
And the Wii U is all about what again? Reminding people of the Wii droughts?
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
@Vic: The Wii was all about bringing in new players. That was what hurt them in the eyes of the non-casual gamer.
Now I'm wandering around wondering when the industry is going to supply me with another console that will suit my needs without also bending me over a table.
I have a feeling that the WiiU might hold potential to be that system Drjones. I totally agree with your point about them dropping the hard-line for the casual, and that was disappointing, which is why I have a small game collection for my Wii, despite enjoying the system.
Vic, WiiU is a stronger Wii that is garnering more 3rd party support. It is possible that the WiiU is a return to the old guard. Not saying it is, I just have a suspicion that that's their goal.
Vic, WiiU is a stronger Wii that is garnering more 3rd party support. It is possible that the WiiU is a return to the old guard. Not saying it is, I just have a suspicion that that's their goal.
I cant believe no one has said this yet....
Quiznor said: »
I cant believe no one has said this yet....
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I have a feeling that the WiiU might hold potential to be that system Drjones. I totally agree with your point about them dropping the hard-line for the casual, and that was disappointing, which is why I have a small game collection for my Wii, despite enjoying the system.
Vic, WiiU is a stronger Wii that is garnering more 3rd party support. It is possible that the WiiU is a return to the old guard. Not saying it is, I just have a suspicion that that's their goal.
Vic, WiiU is a stronger Wii that is garnering more 3rd party support. It is possible that the WiiU is a return to the old guard. Not saying it is, I just have a suspicion that that's their goal.
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They won't return to form, I'll tell you that, but the new "controller" is actually pretty awesome. Also, there's the normal controller for games that require it. The Wiimotes are still used (Let me clarify this because it's important: the SAME Wiimotes from the Wii work with the WiiU), but the primary WiiU controller is used much more often.
If the WiiU's game catalog is anything respectable, I will probably begin buying more games on it, games that aren't Nintendo exclusive.
If the WiiU's game catalog is anything respectable, I will probably begin buying more games on it, games that aren't Nintendo exclusive.
Drjones said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I have a feeling that the WiiU might hold potential to be that system Drjones. I totally agree with your point about them dropping the hard-line for the casual, and that was disappointing, which is why I have a small game collection for my Wii, despite enjoying the system.
Vic, WiiU is a stronger Wii that is garnering more 3rd party support. It is possible that the WiiU is a return to the old guard. Not saying it is, I just have a suspicion that that's their goal.
Vic, WiiU is a stronger Wii that is garnering more 3rd party support. It is possible that the WiiU is a return to the old guard. Not saying it is, I just have a suspicion that that's their goal.
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
They won't return to form, I'll tell you that, but the new "controller" is actually pretty awesome. Also, there's the normal controller for games that require it. The Wiimotes are still used (Let me clarify this because it's important: the SAME Wiimotes from the Wii work with the WiiU), but the primary WiiU controller is used much more often.
If the WiiU's game catalog is anything respectable, I will probably begin buying more games on it, games that aren't Nintendo exclusive.
If the WiiU's game catalog is anything respectable, I will probably begin buying more games on it, games that aren't Nintendo exclusive.
Not that I've experienced. I only have one WiiMotion+ controller and I've played 5-player Nintendoland, but that is just one title.
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
They won't return to form, I'll tell you that, but the new "controller" is actually pretty awesome. Also, there's the normal controller for games that require it. The Wiimotes are still used (Let me clarify this because it's important: the SAME Wiimotes from the Wii work with the WiiU), but the primary WiiU controller is used much more often.
If the WiiU's game catalog is anything respectable, I will probably begin buying more games on it, games that aren't Nintendo exclusive.
If the WiiU's game catalog is anything respectable, I will probably begin buying more games on it, games that aren't Nintendo exclusive.
Again, it comes down to poor marketing. Nintendo should have been hammering home that that the "controller" is actually like a a console within a console that allows you play a game while at a distance from the physical console. It's something unique and certainly a major selling point.
In terms of giving a *** about players, Nintendo is ahead of the pack that is Sony/MS but they consistently fail to court their base and woo 3rd party developers to their camp.
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
They won't return to form, I'll tell you that, but the new "controller" is actually pretty awesome. Also, there's the normal controller for games that require it. The Wiimotes are still used (Let me clarify this because it's important: the SAME Wiimotes from the Wii work with the WiiU), but the primary WiiU controller is used much more often.
If the WiiU's game catalog is anything respectable, I will probably begin buying more games on it, games that aren't Nintendo exclusive.
If the WiiU's game catalog is anything respectable, I will probably begin buying more games on it, games that aren't Nintendo exclusive.
Again, it comes down to poor marketing. Nintendo should have been hammering home that that the "controller" is actually like a a console within a console that allows you play a game while at a distance from the physical console. It's something unique and certainly a major selling point.
Ragnarok.Zohnax said: »
Actually, they did. I remember at E3 that year they specifically drove the point of trying to bring families together and "if the rest of the family wants to watch TV, you can pull up the game on the Gamepad and continue playing."
Doing it at E3 isn't going to whip the potential customer to buy your console. Where is the commercial blitz? The billboards? The focused carpetbombing of your potential customers? I saw some scant commercials when WiiU launched then.... nothing.
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
They won't return to form, I'll tell you that
At this point I'm just disillusioned with the entire industry.
Cerberus.Eugene said: »
That comment was pretty tame compared to #Dealwithit debacle spearheaded by Adam Orth. But Microsoft should have known better than to handle it this way given Orth's commentary on this subject. Saying "Get a 360" is not a solution to the problem, and saying "I don't know what submarine operator does" may be true, but its not sensitive enough given the history of their poor marketing of this requirement.
They need to learn to do some damage control, and fast. There has to be somebody at Microsoft who can figure out the appropriate response to these questions because they're going to keep coming until November.
They need to learn to do some damage control, and fast. There has to be somebody at Microsoft who can figure out the appropriate response to these questions because they're going to keep coming until November.
Appropriate responce
"We are disbanding Microsoft for the following reasons
1. Windows 8 Failure
2. XBOX 360 Failure
3. XBOX one Failure
4. Idiot who announced Microsoft sounded like he was on speed while screaming YEAH for 30 mins in his online presentation
5. We're a bunch of dumbass arseholes who expect the world to have full internet 100% of the time with no interuptions ever period.
6. Above again because you will get disconnected mid game when your failure of a provider loses their internet, which is maintained by a MICROSOFT SYSTEM. Which again we failed at making the first time.
I don't know in which dimension you live in to think 360 is a failure...
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