Xbox Exec: No Internet? Get An Xbox 360

I see people hacking into the system to try and bypass the need to validate software and have an always offline system...lol

You're wrong. They are quite equivalent actually. Anyone stating that the big dogs don't benefit a cent from the used game industry (GameStop) need to gtfo and go home because you must be all sorts of drunk and/or blitzed.

The truth of the matter is that every piece that makes up of the gaming industry (the publishers/devlopers/system creators, users, secondary (used) market) needs to gel with every other piece of the model to be truly successful.

Gamers go to GameStop, trade in their used games, and with the money they just received from GameStop for their used games, buy a brand new, unopened game. Everyone wins. Without the money the user received from GameStop for their used games, they wouldn't be making this purchase in the first place. Same with used/new car sales you just bashed. Without the money coming in from used cars, there's no money going out for new cars. This model is equivalent to games. No cash from used games = no cash for new games.

Another thing I'm not going to get too much into, but I'm sure the big dogs make plenty off of a used game's DLC purchases over it's lifetime to fully warrant the need/acceptance of a used game market.

Solution. Make quality DLC that gamers will buy. The companies are already double/triple dipping with the existence of GameStop.

Example: Buys new game: +$50. Buys all DLC: +$30. Trades in game and buys new game: +$50. Buys all DLC for second game: +$30. Company just made $80 for the initial sell of it's new game and another $80 thanks to the existence of the used game market.

While lack of backwards compatibility is certainly a big peeve of mine with the console generations as of late, I am relatively hopeful with expansions of virtual console and software based emulation. Until they're up to date, PC emulation is catching up nicely, and hopefully your previous existing systems will still receive repair support, god forbid anything happens to it.

Gamestop is not a poison to the industry, nor was Blockbuster an issue in the past. ("rentals will kill the industry" etc etc was the boogeyman of days past) if Gamestop is such a terrible place, why the hell are all the publishers courting them for day one DLC pre-order "bonuses"? wouldn't those deals instead be for OTHER retailers? wouldn't other big boxes have the lion's share of product to sell? why are there so many Gamestop exclusives if these are the people stabbing the industry in the back?!

for all the ills of Gamestop, you can bet your *** that there will be an arrangement in place day one for the sales of pre-owned games, and any small businesses that rely on used games to pay the rent will only be dealing in PS4/Wii-U/portables. all this really is, is an online pass that affects every pre-owned sale, while taking a steaming dump on the rights of the consumer.

and NOW, I need to shower off the scum from actually defending Gamestop.

It will happen.

Much like PS3/360 are being used like this right now and some hacks even allow to play online without it being detected.

Regarding Gamestop, it's the same everywhere. Every single website having a pre owned market still have their very own collector editions in partnership with publishers. Same goes for the big stores in France and England, they all have partnerships that other stores don't even have.

I find it ironic that the very practice that Microsoft is attempting to crush (used game trade) will actually be fueling the purchases of hundreds of thousands of XBoxOnes this coming fall...that is, if there are still people left on the bandwagon to buy it.

It's the life cycle of gaming. You don't just stop a cycle that's been feeding you all of these years. Stupid.

Some people only play Halo and CoD 25. These people NEED the new Xbox, because it is their way of playing.

Microsoft will always have a specific playerbase that cannot go anywhere else (if they had half a brain, they'd be on PC since 10 years, but they don't so...), they merely removed a part of the current playerbase.

No offense, if you don't have internet you might want to get on your time machine back to the 90's, it's leaving soon.

Something actually bigger that no one paying attention to is the lowest resolution that PS4 and XBox1 are support is 720p, so the people that don't have the internet probably won't be able to play the PS4 either XD

everyone keeps saying MS is attempting to crush used games...

All I'm saying is that MS has all this stuff, and notice at E3 EA announced like 5 XB1 exclusives. You know, EA the company that ports every game they make to everything.

Isn't that kind of a ko-winky-dink

Ive owned two 360's since 2007, 2nd one being an upgrade to an Elite from the Arcade system because I found a real good deal on it, and I have yet to experience this 'Red Ring of Death' people keep whining about.

Because Gamestop is perhaps one of the biggest american retail distributors of video games, they have the money and ability to make exclusive ultimatums with publishers. This wouldn't be the first time publishers have come under fire from predatory business practices, including threats of not shelving.



I suppose it has to do with capacity of reaching projected sale demands which Gamestop has the ability to meet; more so than Best Buy, Target, Walmart, etc. because they lack the centralization or emphasis exclusively to video games.


You're right. It wouldn't make sense for any retailer to shelve games that are counter intuitive to business operations that yield profit. MS definitely shot themselves in the foot there, not only by alienating the consumers and potential purchases of the XB1, but also publishers who will have a pipeline of revenue from a multi-platform release come to a suffocating diminish or otherwise screeching halt.
Avenues for capital for publishers and developers is a one way street, and while the used game market greatly affects their return, constricting the freedom of users and alienating them with monetary ultimatums is definitely not the way to go.

something tells me you also don't keep your console tucked away in a media center

The real bummer is, I'm still likely to (eventually) purchase an Xbox One, simply because I can't get over how perfect their peripherals are.
The xbox controller simply fits like a glove for me, and I cannot stand the parallel analog sticks and flimsiness of the Dualshock3.
But alas, the PS4 is a given, and we'll just see how improved their controller is. I just hope the "Cher" button won't be abused.

Which ones are XB1 exclusives? I never saw that..

Sunset Overdrive, Plants Vs Zombies Garden Warfare, Titanfall, the other escape me atm... But other big DRM Fans, Capcom are also making dead rising exclusive.

Just saying, I'm sure Publishers were doing most of the push for DRM.

Another sign the video game industry as become too bloated

Titanfall isnt an X1 exclusive, its a MS exclusive. Its also coming to 360 and PC.

This makes me very very sad... Been a proud xbox player/fan for a longtime... I'll hold off on any preorder for now, but I see myself getting a PS4 when xbox doesnt pull there heads out.

Inb4 "Xbox One has no game... but it has TV".

MS is treating Xbox1 wayyyy too much like one of their business products.

What is this witchcraft?

HD TV's are dirt cheap now anyway, you can grab a 720p 32inch for under 200 bucks.

But you're right, that is something nobody seems to be noticing. Do they even manufacture Non HDTVs anymore?

720 is a low end model, probably not.

srsly.

Also have never had a red ring,3 different xboxes,upgrades (kinda) each time.

From jan 2006 - present day

I didn't mean to imply 720p was good if that's what you took away from that comment. I should probably check Newegg actually. My LCD has to be nearing the end of it's 30,000HR life, I also miss the color black, LCD only gets to some weird glossy grey-black.

The basic principle of how LCD's work is the reason behind your black comment.Not an insult,just in case you didnt know how they work. Alot of people dont

I've had 3 360s now since the console came out. 2 of them are from the very first EU batch, never a single RoD. They do overheat and crash when I play stuff like Lost Odyssey (battle start/cut scenes) and I leave stuff around the console, but otherwise it's all good.

The last one is a slim one, no issue with it.

I believe they still make CRTs/Cathodic TVs, I was able to buy some brand new 36/52cm 19" not long ago. I also found a nice 52cm basically brand new threw away by my neighbours.

Can you spot the minority?