Military Parade - A DD Bard Guide

Right, so it's the same priority for potency either way. If it's "easy", he can get it anytime, including later too. His Bard isn't ready to use right now, so what sense does it make to prioritize an expensive neck piece for a job that's not ready to be used? He could invest it into the mats to buy Relic and get by with a NQ whistle too in the meantime, it's all the same. Relic's cheap to make and can be done in a few hours, with some trials in between. It's not a "Whistle is more priority than Ghorn", its still one potency difference if you go +3 Linos & HQ Whistle or Ghorn & NQ whistle. They're equally both important

It is, for me.
But I find it more than acceptable if you disagree!
Let's say both present a perfectly acceptable option in the same slot that is -1 potency compared to HQ neck and Ghorn.
I don't think either is particularly relevant (altough if you go that route for both slots it becomes potency-2 not -1, which is still okay imho, buuuut you get what I mean).

So what's the difference? The difference is that Neck, even the HQ, is pretty cheap imho, and it's literally ready the second you get it, no trials, nothing.


With that said if the guy has limited funds and goes to 0 gil or close to that after a few things, then by all means go for the NQ neck and you won't regret it, can always re-sell it on AH and buy HQ whenever he gets more gil!

Generally speaking, it's not a bad thing to take shortcuts while gearing to get the job "Ready". I don't mind buying a Su4 for like RUN because the Su5 (although better) is really a minor improvement to a niche role that doesn't necessarily impact anyone else's performance. Still, with gearing, there does need to be a standard for what is considered job "Ready". For Bard, I believe the consensus among most players is you're expected to have REMA weapons for Bard (which does include the whistle too, even if not explicitly mentioned. Prime is the exception, except for elite groups

My counter point to your priority list is, if -1 potency is indistinguishable to the naked eye to 90% of the people, when does that train stop? Is -2 indistinguishable? Is +7 potency Geomancy noticeable vs +10? If you tell him to take a shortcut in gearing by doing Ghorn later, because almost nobody will notice -1 potency, why by that logic is the extra potency from HQ whistle a higher priority on the list for Bard? Because he can get it sooner and have it checked off his list? That doesn't make it any more important than the Ghorn, he's still below the standard.

Now if what we are saying is -2 is fine, then make +3 Linos and buy NQ whistle, get Terpander and pop CC every time you need a 4th song, then I guess that's "Ready" too. I don't see the priority thing as this or that. I feel like Ghorn is equally as important to BRD as the whistle. And I'm not an elitist-mindset kind of person, but I also don't want to start down the path of shortcuts for BRD when I normally don't see other people view it that way. Unless they are OK with it, that's another story.

can't believe i'm seeing +3 linos being suggested in 2026 !

my 2 cents: you'll make the horn eventually anyway.

to answer OP, if you want to gear BRD, i suggest to go all out. it's a lot but that's when the job gets fun anyway. you will be rewarded with probably the most useful job in the game in 99% of situations.

Generally order of upgrades is easiest first and grind away at the hardest along the way.

By the time you grind/buy enough alex for a mythic or metal for empy, you will get lots of stuff for a horn.

It is, other than the neck, one of the easiest potency upgrades you can get. To my mind there is no argument on not doing it, why would you ever not want that.

The other factor here is Whistle boosts Honor March, whereas horn does not.

Hello. If soloing on bard for whatever reason and fighting anything where the mob has high hp is using Aeneas doing radiance/umbra worth it for damage or is naegling/cento or twash/cento better for damage?

If so can you list the correct skillchain combinations for radiance and umbra?

thanks

Edit: Would you still use cento offhand for aeneas?

I've never been impressed with aeneas on BRD, THF or DNC. You could try it out but exenterator is trash so the SCs will be (at least partially) terrible too.

When solo and doing SC, I prefer Mordant- Mordant- evisceration- rudra's for double darkness. Evisceration isn't the best, but it makes for pretty strong overall damage. I typically do this with carnwenhan for increased TP rate and Mordant damage, though twashtar would also be pretty good, if you can still pull it off.

As to whether that's faster than naegling or aeneas, I'm not sure. I don't truly solo on BRD, really. Just my experience from stuff like segs, sortie, Limbus, etc.

Thanks for the reply. Just 1 more question though. Offhand centovente or crepuscular Knife for that skillchain combination you mentioned: mordant to mordant to evisceration to rudra?

Thanks.

Mordant doesn't increase in damage with additional TP, and evisceration only gets additional crit chance with additional TP, so those two are better served with a crep or gleti's knife. Rudras, though, does scale very well with TP.

Accuracy is a consideration, too, because cent isn't iLvl and doesn't get the massive bonuses that iLvl weapons would normally get, so it can be a big reduction in TP gain to use it unless you have accuracy accounted for.

Ultimately the damage will be higher with cent, but you may be closing less 4-steps to get that damage boost.

been seeing a lot of DA/QA linos lately. are people moving away from the STP in favor if the DA with all the DA that new limbus gear gets?

If anything, it would be the opposite. More DA makes STP more valuable, it doesn't make DA more valuable.

But to answer more directly: I've always preferred STP over DA on linos, partially because of the QA you already have (diminishing the value of DA), but also because of carnwenhan AM3 situations, where the value of DA is significantly reduced, but STP value is still high.

who are we kidding. the correct answer now is Hoxne ampulla because everyone is made of money.

Real answer is what maletaru said. point for point STP is slightly stronger than DA for what it does. The fact that Linos can go up to 4 STP though and DA only goes to 3 means that even in a situation where you could lean into more and more DA, STP is still going to be better.

I haven't used it on BRD yet, because it is still slightly annoying due to song/instrument swaps and slot disable. If you have to sing mid-fight or sleep-on-pull etc, you lose any effect, so you have to use it after all song duties (and there can't be any song re-applications, like Threnody or Ballads); it's kind of clunky stopping to use it after songs. Just messing around with how I would work it into some things, I haven't made separate sets for it and tested it just because the setup is a little different than a simple drk //gs disable ammo and wear the ampulla.

In Sortie, the fights are so short, so you're not burning a lot of gil, but also have to deal with the re-song thing and sometimes Threnody for the COR. Maybe for Aminon, but then you're still only getting DA effect for WSs. For Ambuscade (this month) you get enough TP in a round in between the Sabotender running back in for your WS, it's barely useful, so meh. In Limbus, you're pulling and sleeping, so it's not even worth using Ampulla, or even pulling out your weapon for that matter. If you Lullaby in Segments, you can't get much use out of it there, but that's going to depend on your party and style. There's probably a good use case in Dynamis-D farming or other events where you are engaged for longer periods of time without the need to sing (C objective in Sortie, maybe). For me, the list of times where I feel I can use Ampulla on BRD have been shorter than other jobs. For those reasons (and pure laziness), I haven't been motivated to try it on BRD.

Any idea how to make Twashtar work on BRD? I'm finding I either do 15-25k, or 50-60k with very little in-between with Rudra's. Buffs were fury frailty, Chaos, Min Min March HM. SB on the other hand has a more consistent 40-50k.


ItemSet 402821
Cape: has +30DEX/WSD
Linos: +6 DEX/STR(it's also my SB flute), +3WSD, +15ATT
My Nyame is R15 . _.

Use it on Slashing-resistance monsters like in Sheol C (Lamia) or Gaol if you are meleeing and not walling someone else (rare). Your set is fine outside of it needing higher Nyame Rank, but Savage Blade comparisons aren't fair because Savage w/ Naegling is busted. You're not going to hit the kind of numbers consistently with Twashtar that you will with Naegling at the same effective TP.

Without being told the mobs/content you're testing it on, I'm going to assume your low numbers are just popping out against mobs that have a piercing resistance or just not weak to piercing.

Ah sorry, i was testing in CN(S) on crawlers and flies.


Damn that was my worry X_X

Flies have a 25% piercing weakness, so that would explain your spikes vs them. You probably hit your lower end numbers on crawlers.