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By Dodik 2026-04-22 16:31:34
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Editing posts to say random words is not deleting them.

Oh, you don't find that useful? If only there was a downvote button you could use to express your displeasure.
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By RadialArcana 2026-04-22 16:33:19
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Worrying about that at this point is a waste of time, they got everything already if it's out there.
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-04-22 21:53:44
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RadialArcana said: »
Worrying about that at this point is a waste of time, they got everything already if it's out there.

Now yes, but this was not long after ChatGPT went public and the entire AI hype bubble began. Once it got out that these AI companies were scraping anything and everything across the internet to "train" AIs without giving any credit, public pushback started.
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2026-04-23 09:02:28
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Dodik said: »
Editing posts to say random words is not deleting them.

Oh, you don't find that useful? If only there was a downvote button you could use to express your displeasure.
when it comes to doing it on SO it is just performative, there is an edit history on the post, and it will just be reversed and you lose access to the ability to change posts going forward.

In addition to that, SO releases a quarterly Data Dump which is an offline copy of the posts which your edit wont be reflected in (if one was done between your post and edit), and if you ask me I think an AI company is going to grab the neatly packaged pile of data before scraping the site when the option is just sitting there.


but like if it makes you feel better, like your sticking it to the man, go for it.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-04-23 10:20:13
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Reddit really suffering from that kinda thing. There's so little organic content to begin with, seeing a thread where 1/3 of the posts have been censored because people were upset about porn or AI is depressing.
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By Bahamut.Suph 2026-04-23 10:20:22
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We just need to vibe code a bot to mass registers and upvote the wrong answer on stack overflow.

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By Bahamut.Negan 2026-04-23 10:24:23
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FFXI Strawberry Mango Forklift
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By RadialArcana 2026-04-23 10:31:42
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Reddit is terrible now, they have utterly ruined it. You can kind of see that the site no longer really exists to talk about stuff, and more exists as a place to allow people to post data they can sell. Cause that's where the money is.
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By Dodik 2026-04-23 10:57:53
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I know editing SO makes little to no difference. Nuking my account as a result of edits as protest for user contributions being used for AI *is* the point.

Not sticking it to anyone, nor will it stop AI companies using it. It is simply a form of protest.

The fewer people contribute to So the less value it has. The more people purposefully get their accounts banned the worse for So. Again, this is the point.

Same goes for all public sites. No users, no data, no data for AI to be trained with.
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By Pantafernando 2026-04-23 11:27:25
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Actual useful information, I just saw a video mentioning that something is drastically changing in the AI coding market.

https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/changes-to-github-copilot-individual-plans/

I already had that plan on using Claude Code as planning and architecture, and Copilot to actual execution, given the request metric is more forgiving than the token metric from Claude Code.

BUT... Github Copilot put on hold new licenses, plus they removed most Opus models from any plan, leaving only Opus 4.7 on the super tier.

Idk, but I would bet the service is starting to get more expensive due to the increase of demand.
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By RadialArcana 2026-04-23 11:48:20
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Anthropic secretly installs spyware when you install Claude Desktop

https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/anthropic-spyware/
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-04-23 12:15:30
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RadialArcana said: »
Reddit is terrible now, they have utterly ruined it.
While my reply is off topic I have to say it.

Reddit has always been a cesspool. How can anyone ruin a cesspool like that?
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By RadialArcana 2026-04-23 12:26:04
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
RadialArcana said: »
Reddit is terrible now, they have utterly ruined it.
While my reply is off topic I have to say it.

Reddit has always been a cesspool. How can anyone ruin a cesspool like that?

It's always been bad at a design level, in that the rate down system makes people into herd followers. Also the elite level reddit mods are unpaid pond scum (not all). However it allowed a lot of easily accessible communities to be created to talk about stuff.

It was like a 4/10 and now it's a 2/10.
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By RadialArcana 2026-04-23 15:40:19
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The massive investment being put into AI video content implies they have a very strong future plan to make money from it. My theory is very much like art, they intend to move away from movies and shows made as they are now and instead move into custom made movies and shows, based on things you like.

There is no way they would spend this kind of money unless there is a reason for it, AI video is far more expensive than art, music etc
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2026-04-23 17:31:37
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In the long run, not having to pay actors and build movies from prompts, means junk like Fast & The Furious all the way to part 37845 can be made. The base will eat it up, they've shown they'll watch jingling keys for 90 minutes after the first one. lol

Repeat for various franchises
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By RadialArcana 2026-04-24 01:44:59
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Entertainment/art has been moving into this brand zombie direction for a while now, everything is built on everything else you already like. It's a sequel, a side story, a remake, a remaster a re-imagining, and all made by unimpressive people who do it cheaper or are replaceable so they don't have leverage over the executives to demand higher pay. Everything anyone liked is squeezed to death, to get every cent out of it till you're sick of it. All so the shareholders can make an extra few % on their investment.

"oh you like star wars? here are 10 more series about it! remember the woman in the canteen you saw for 2 seconds?! This is her neighbors life story!!"

As a society we were already moving away from being creative and making new things, and into the realm of remaking things over and over. Cultural recycling. An LLM on demand slop factory is just the logical progression of where we already are.

Custom made marvel slop, generated in real time and changed as it is played, based on how the AI scanner judges your mood while watching it.
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By Dodik 2026-04-24 03:29:47
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While slop appeals for a while, like real life slop, it tends to taste pretty awful once you've had it once or twice.

Relying on LLM to regurgitate old content in a new form is not a sustainable strategy.
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By Cerberus.Balloon 2026-04-24 03:53:10
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https://www.reuters.com/world/white-house-accuses-china-industrial-scale-theft-ai-technology-ft-reports-2026-04-23/

This ***boils my blood a little. It's the whole rules for thee, not for me mentality.

Please don't steal the output of our content stealing machine. We stole that content fair and square!
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By RadialArcana 2026-04-24 04:27:18
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In the coming Globalist vs Zionist vs CCP AI wars, everyone can be assured they stole all our stuff to keep us safe and infact you should want them to steal more of your stuff ackchyually.

What? are you a "other factions" sympathizer?!
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-04-24 08:07:23
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By RadialArcana 2026-04-24 08:43:44
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Asura.Saevel said: »

You can get bunk information from google, AI is no better or worse than what we have always had in the internet age. Also if you're the kind of person that picks random crap off the floor and tries to eat it, you should know what you're doing.

These are the kind of people that need "warning coffee is hot" on the plastic cups. We need less on them in general.
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By Cerberus.Balloon 2026-04-24 09:17:16
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RadialArcana said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »

You can get bunk information from google, AI is no better or worse than what we have always had in the internet age. Also if you're the kind of person that picks random crap off the floor and tries to eat it, you should know what you're doing.

These are the kind of people that need "warning coffee is hot" on the plastic cups. We need less on them in general.

I'd have believed this until I saw all the cases of Lawyers using ChatGPT to cite wrong case studies.

People will take mental shortcuts, and they sell this as "super intelligence" so...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-04-24 09:30:26
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All mushrooms are edible but some only once. - Terry Practchett.
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By RadialArcana 2026-04-24 09:43:06
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The best part is you know that image was created by AI.
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-04-24 10:26:54
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-04-24 10:28:09
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RadialArcana said: »
You can get bunk information from google, AI is no better or worse than what we have always had in the internet age

That's been my point since the very first post in this thread.
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By Althor 2026-04-24 10:37:45
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curious how much you guys are currently using AI on a daily basis when it isn't required by your job or something similar? I played with a few things like the song generation when it was posted here but within the last few months I haven't used it in any capacity beyond what google spits out when you search for something. Haven't bothered to look if you can block that from search results or not, though I imagine something exists by now.
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-04-24 10:53:14
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Althor said: »
curious how much you guys are currently using AI on a daily basis when it isn't required by your job or something similar?

Zero. I have long since developed my research skills to the point I can find information faster and more accurately then some algorithm that used reddit posts as it's source of truth.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-04-24 12:38:39
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Althor said: »
curious how much you guys are currently using AI on a daily basis when it isn't required by your job or something similar?
Zero. I have long since developed my research skills to the point I can find information faster and more accurately then some algorithm that used reddit posts as it's source of truth.
I'm with Saeval on this one.

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I'd have believed this until I saw all the cases of Lawyers using ChatGPT to cite wrong case studies.
ChatGTP wasn't citing wrong case studies, it was making cases up and citing them.

The odd part is that AI has been known to do this for a few years now and lawyers using AI haven't bothered to look up the cases on legal databases that they already have subscriptions to just in case the citations are really hallucinations.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2026-04-24 12:51:58
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Althor said: »
curious how much you guys are currently using AI on a daily basis when it isn't required by your job or something similar?

I use it to help with well defined tasks, like I mentioned earlier I used it to construct some JSON stuff I didn't want to do myself. It took me less time to do that than it would've manually, but I still had to edit it.

I've had it do some bash scripting here and there because I hate bash scripting and it gets me about 90% of the way there faster, with less effort. Similarly I've had some annoying command sequences I didn't wanna do (e.g. like escaping strings a certain way) I fed it to, but it maybe cut out 5 minutes from me just doing it on another box with python and copy/pasting.

I've done some code analysis with it, but even Claude Code needs a lot of handholding and most of the results are kinda mid or misinformed. It's not horrible but my rule of thumb with this is that 9/10 times, I'm faster finding what I am looking for rather than trying to get AI to do it for me and it's less error prone. I've only had luck running it against repositories I already know really well so I can ask very specific, pointed questions in a prompt, but even then...if I know the code it rarely gives me anything useful I couldn't do myself. If I don't know it, then I can't interpret the output anyway without learning it, so either way I have to spend time reading the code, might as well just find it in a way that helps me learn the code better.

The ability for it to practically interpret code and create output is not stellar. Using the JSON example above, if I fed it the repo and asked it to build a JSON file to hit a certain node, it would kinda get 90% of the way there.

I was writing a kernel module and I was trying to figure out if I needed to lock before reading from a certain struct, it told me no and pointed to the mailing list discussion saying it wasn't necessary. I looked at the code and it looked necessary but I figured I was wrong and trusted the AI. The kernel panics that followed were a good reminder to not trust that ***. The lock was necessary and I should've trusted my judgement

Maybe I'm just doing it wrong. Everyone thinks people like me are gonna be replaced by Mythos. Everyone reading that Mozilla blog post different ways to their own biases. OTOH for 20 years they've been saying that about every new fad, so we'll see.
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