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By Kayte 2026-04-24 23:12:00
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Felgarr said: »
What if ..."High Roller" is related to chocobetting? Has anyone tried this?

Personally, I'm doing the 10/20/50 C4/3/2/1 Races for wins, and I have no choice but to wait in the stands for the races to start. I could place some bets, perhaps...

If High Roller and Fortune's Favorite are actually in the game and not unobtainable they're 99% related to chocobo betting.

That said, I've bet on my own bird every time I raced and thus won several dozen times at least, and I've also maxed out a bet amount to see if that worked and didn't either.

There's not a single report of anyone ever obtaining one, and there's a lot of dedicated players, especially JP ones, who probably long since did 1000+ bets over the decades. The odds they just haven't been encountered yet is pretty slim.
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By HiPotion 2026-04-25 01:21:26
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i just did all 15 walk of echoes (one of them surged), got Rank 5 on zoning out of WoE



things i did recently: rank 10 sandoria, 2 addon scenarios, complete vw tavnazia path, catsith (The Dawn Also Rises), stronghold invasion, a lot of monstrosity, few hnm titles

so just quests, titles, monexp, it could be that i got it after the 500th title but i didnt zone to check (currently 512 titles)
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By Odin.Bangla 2026-04-25 01:59:26
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I brought all my monstrosity monsters to 99 and nothing visibly changed on my mastery rank.

I started when I just got rank 9 and dropped my medal of Altana.

During this time I have capped 61 of 64 monsters at 99, resulting in 2087 levels and 61 instinct unlocks, as well as 2 skin unlocks.

I had all monster unlocks already and everything was 60+ when I started.

Will maybe test some more on a low rank mule when the campaign rolls around.
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By HiPotion 2026-04-25 02:52:07
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i just reset 15 artifact quests (worth 15 titles and 60 quests) and got de-ranked to 4, also on zoning. (now 494 titles)
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2026-04-25 08:50:03
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Now that's some fun testing info! Another controllable thing that isn't medal of altana to mess with... That just takes forever to redo, lol

Is that only the second instance of ranking down we have seen? So many pages I might have forgotten one
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By lildheyose 2026-04-25 10:41:11
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kayte will u someday be releasing your chocobo helper for the runs to help get them done quicker in the day
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By warmech 2026-04-25 20:43:13
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I second that motion! (its brutal doing it by hand daily)
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By HiPotion 2026-04-26 10:29:42
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HiPotion said: »
i just reset 15 artifact quests (worth 15 titles and 60 quests) and got de-ranked to 4, also on zoning. (now 494 titles)
well, im redoing the quests again, reached 502 titles and still no rank up. so it's definitely not a title milestone thing.

although the Lv40 BLM quest gives 3 titles i dont know how that counts.
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By Felgarr 2026-04-26 10:45:52
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HiPotion said: »
HiPotion said: »
i just reset 15 artifact quests (worth 15 titles and 60 quests) and got de-ranked to 4, also on zoning. (now 494 titles)
well, im redoing the quests again, reached 502 titles and still no rank up. so it's definitely not a title milestone thing.

although the Lv40 BLM quest gives 3 titles i dont know how that counts.

It is most certainly a Title Count ("points") + a list of qualifying Rank Up conditions.

Just to be clear, you dropped to 494 and are now back to 502 Titles? (and this is after resetting 15 AF quests?). I know you said that BLM AF quest line has 3 titles, but for let's assume 2 Titles per Job's AF ("Boghertz's $Job Hands" and "Paragon of $Job Excellence") x 15 jobs = 30 titles.

So 494 + 30 = 524 Titles. So you had 524 Titles at a minimum when you had Rank 5, before you de-ranked to 4.

The good news is that you might find an exact title count for a specific rank up, which would be a huge help.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-04-26 10:57:37
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It's

1/1/4/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1 (18)

for the first 15 jobs

blu cor pup dnc sch geo run have 1~3
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By HiPotion 2026-04-26 11:27:12
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Felgarr said: »
HiPotion said: »
HiPotion said: »
i just reset 15 artifact quests (worth 15 titles and 60 quests) and got de-ranked to 4, also on zoning. (now 494 titles)
well, im redoing the quests again, reached 502 titles and still no rank up. so it's definitely not a title milestone thing.

although the Lv40 BLM quest gives 3 titles i dont know how that counts.

It is most certainly a Title Count ("points") + a list of qualifying Rank Up conditions.

Just to be clear, you dropped to 494 and are now back to 502 Titles? (and this is after resetting 15 AF quests?). I know you said that BLM AF quest line has 3 titles, but for let's assume 2 Titles per Job's AF ("Boghertz's $Job Hands" and "Paragon of $Job Excellence") x 15 jobs = 30 titles.

So 494 + 30 = 524 Titles. So you had 524 Titles at a minimum when you had Rank 5, before you de-ranked to 4.

The good news is that you might find an exact title count for a specific rank up, which would be a huge help.
i had 512 -> reset 15 jobs (WAR to SMN) -> dropped to 494 -> regained up to 502

did WAR MNK DRK WHM RDM (4 quests + 2 coffers + +1 Title + 1 claim slip each)
did BLM BST (only Lv40 weapon quest) (1 quest + zero else; each)

my goal to reach exact quest that ranks me up -> derank using only that quest -> test stupid stuff and see if they push rank
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2026-04-26 20:09:47
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PSA:

If you're on Asura, we lost the northlands AND all 3 nations lost their starter zone. Now is your opportunity to get certain intel and offensive Campaign Ops done.

Additionally, I intend to grind out Cut and Cauterize III, Brave Dawn III, Crystal Fist IV, Magna Cache III, and Steel Resolve III this week

If you're on my server and need those, feel free to help contribute to unlocking them and making each of our grinds a little bit easier!
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2026-04-26 20:19:13
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On the topic of Campaign Ops, anyone else have an oddly difficult time hitting the next tier of an Op? I've turned in over 40 tags on Smokescreen II and have yet to unlock Smokescreen III. I didn't have anywhere near this much trouble when going through another nation's Smokescreens or any other Op for that matter. 20 was typically the max.
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By Asura.Vellamorn 2026-04-26 23:01:46
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Asura.Dexprozius said: »
PSA:

If you're on Asura, we lost the northlands AND all 3 nations lost their starter zone. Now is your opportunity to get certain intel and offensive Campaign Ops done.

Additionally, I intend to grind out Cut and Cauterize III, Brave Dawn III, Crystal Fist IV, Magna Cache III, and Steel Resolve III this week

If you're on my server and need those, feel free to help contribute to unlocking them and making each of our grinds a little bit easier!

After I clean up the Smokescreens I'm missing (plus Search & Seizure but idk what causes that one to pop) I'll start grinding away at Crystal Fist (+Iron Anvil) and see if I can progress those too. We're both aligned with Sandy right now it looks like.
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By Bismarck.Johnb 2026-04-27 02:15:38
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Collected all of the moblin maze runes available in-game but still Mastery Rank 8.

Things I found out: Some maze runes you can only get through 094. Some are not available if you have 094 on. You can get most maze runes by spamming Maze Voucher 08 NM one. I think you must have at least 1 C.C. Point to get the extra Hoardbox that usually has a rune in it though.

Fisherman 085 is only during the fishing voucher though. The Walloper etc. job runes are only on the Chaperix voucher though of course.

I have a suspicion that the game tends to give you runes that you don't have rather than it being completely random.
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By HiPotion 2026-04-27 02:34:16
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HiPotion said: »
Felgarr said: »
HiPotion said: »
HiPotion said: »
i just reset 15 artifact quests (worth 15 titles and 60 quests) and got de-ranked to 4, also on zoning. (now 494 titles)
well, im redoing the quests again, reached 502 titles and still no rank up. so it's definitely not a title milestone thing.

although the Lv40 BLM quest gives 3 titles i dont know how that counts.

It is most certainly a Title Count ("points") + a list of qualifying Rank Up conditions.

Just to be clear, you dropped to 494 and are now back to 502 Titles? (and this is after resetting 15 AF quests?). I know you said that BLM AF quest line has 3 titles, but for let's assume 2 Titles per Job's AF ("Boghertz's $Job Hands" and "Paragon of $Job Excellence") x 15 jobs = 30 titles.

So 494 + 30 = 524 Titles. So you had 524 Titles at a minimum when you had Rank 5, before you de-ranked to 4.

The good news is that you might find an exact title count for a specific rank up, which would be a huge help.
i had 512 -> reset 15 jobs (WAR to SMN) -> dropped to 494 -> regained up to 502

did WAR MNK DRK WHM RDM (4 quests + 2 coffers + +1 Title + 1 claim slip each)
did BLM BST (only Lv40 weapon quest) (1 quest + zero else; each)

my goal to reach exact quest that ranks me up -> derank using only that quest -> test stupid stuff and see if they push rank

so i completed BST AF (now total 4 quests + 2 coffer miniquest + 1 title + 1 claim slip)
Total Titles: 503
then i did BLM Lv52 AF Quest (non title quest)

ranked up again on zone

Total Quests: 404
Total Titles: 503

also tried removing all claim slips & zoning to check if rank would decrease, no derank but had to check anyway.
edit 1: also spent 50k infamy to zero, no change.
edit 2: tried to reset blm AF again after doing the quests, couldnt do that until i opened the 2 coffers miniquest... so they count for something at least.

edit 3: i deranked again and kept myself only 1 quest from ranking back to 5.
since 'miniquest' for coffers count for something i went and obtained Lycopodium miniquest on garlaige (i already had gustaberg done longtime ago) and got ranked up again
(now only 2/3 Lycopodium unlocked)



so new info
- can derank by AF reset
- Lycopodium counts for mastery (1 miniquest = 1 quest or 1 transportation unlock = 1 quest ?)


added Lycopodium tracking to the addon (under Warps -> WoTG Unlocks), thanks to kayte's assistance investigating the packet.
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By Asura.Toralin 2026-04-27 06:19:32
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is there a way to detect coalition rank other than talking to the civil registrars at each coalition?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2026-04-27 06:29:20
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Asura.Toralin said: »
is there a way to detect coalition rank other than talking to the civil registrars at each coalition?

You can determine minimum rank by looking at the completed coalition quests, but you won't know it exactly from that.

Also, wow@lycopidium warps. I would have bet quite a lot against them mattering. I guess I need to go verify I can warp through all the cavernous maws now, too.
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By LightningHelix 2026-04-27 06:35:46
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Asura.Toralin said: »
is there a way to detect coalition rank other than talking to the civil registrars at each coalition?
There's a single NPC in the plaza in East Adoulin that tells you all of them in one menu - the Adoulin Fame NPC, Iyvah Halohm the Mithra.

But I don't know anything automated.
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By HiPotion 2026-04-27 06:47:04
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Asura.Toralin said: »
is there a way to detect coalition rank other than talking to the civil registrars at each coalition?

You can determine minimum rank by looking at the completed coalition quests, but you won't know it exactly from that.

Also, wow@lycopidium warps. I would have bet quite a lot against them mattering. I guess I need to go verify I can warp through all the cavernous maws now, too.
got the unlock and rank by talking to npc only, didnt utilize the warp on present day. (you get the packet/credit for unlocking right after speaking to the npc in shadowreign area)

edit: also after unlocking 3/3 lyco warps couldnt de-rank by resetting 11 artifact (WAR MNK WHM RDM DRK BST BLU COR PUP DNC SCH), which is weird. maybe 3/3 lyco completed a 'category' aka more points than i can reset ??
im stuck in rank 5 now, i'll do stuff until rank 6 then repeat this process lol
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2026-04-27 16:48:15
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Asura.Vellamorn said: »
Asura.Dexprozius said: »
PSA:

If you're on Asura, we lost the northlands AND all 3 nations lost their starter zone. Now is your opportunity to get certain intel and offensive Campaign Ops done.

Additionally, I intend to grind out Cut and Cauterize III, Brave Dawn III, Crystal Fist IV, Magna Cache III, and Steel Resolve III this week

If you're on my server and need those, feel free to help contribute to unlocking them and making each of our grinds a little bit easier!

After I clean up the Smokescreens I'm missing (plus Search & Seizure but idk what causes that one to pop) I'll start grinding away at Crystal Fist (+Iron Anvil) and see if I can progress those too. We're both aligned with Sandy right now it looks like.

While you do that I'll be doing Cut + Cauterize


Side note: Big ups to Hi-Pot for being a legend and doing all the hard work testing these things
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By Asura.Vellamorn 2026-04-27 16:52:40
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Asura.Dexprozius said: »
While you do that I'll be doing Cut + Cauterize


Side note: Big ups to Hi-Pot for being a legend and doing all the hard work testing these things

Unfortunately I had to take a slight detour because I didn't realize until today that you need 61 crafting to finish all the Crystal Fists so I'm grinding GSM up right now, haha. Lesson learned, and a heads up for anyone else doing these ops.

After I finish my current craft batch I'm going to go back to pushing Crystal Fist until I see II appear.
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By Bahamut.Scratch 2026-04-27 17:20:03
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I love that we can now derank using artifact quest: I propose someone in this spot derank from artifact ( 1 title) and put some time in Monstrosity / Master Levels / Moogle Mastery to investigate some of of the weights of level & skill as impact. This can help the community.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2026-04-28 06:36:14
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Heroic work figuring out that Lycopodium warps matter. Inspired me to actually go around and verify that I've gotten all the Cavernous Maws as well.

Two more addon notes:
* MMM Maze Count is only visible on the Main tab and doesn't have a denominator
* RoE still uses 1100 as a denominator and reports 1094/1100 for me even though I'm missing 1 (1083/1084 by my menu/count). It reports that I'm missing 5 Guild Master's Request RoEs. Spoilering a list of the ones that I have in my settings files. I'm done the Alchemy shield.
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I finished vorseals. Things I know of that are left for me:
* Delevel alchemy and get the other guild's titles. @400k everywhere but WW, where I'm @200k GP banked
* A Discerning Eye x99
* Ballista
* Aminon
* 4x Master Trials
* 11x Orchestrion music (goddamned Mog-Tablet)
* Sunshine Seeker event for Adenium Bench
* Another 581 Master Levels
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By LightningHelix 2026-04-28 08:29:27
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
* 11x Orchestrion music (goddamned Mog-Tablet)
surely there isn't...

you have to find specifically the Piety tablet FOUR TIMES?!
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2026-04-28 08:40:47
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LightningHelix said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
* 11x Orchestrion music (goddamned Mog-Tablet)
surely there isn't...

you have to find specifically the Piety tablet FOUR TIMES?!

Yuuuup


Also, fwiw, I screwed around with dialogue packets and there's not a straightforward way to force the server to give you Provide coalition assignments. Fooling the client into thinking the ops are available still doesn't give you them when they are selected.
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By AeryBahamut 2026-04-28 10:00:55
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I am trying to track stuff, but I do not use anything (even Windower). I should be closing in on Mastery Rank 5. I saw the posted 'tracker' but it is different from my count in-game on Missions Bastok has 20 missions, 21 entries, and things like Zilart, CoP, WoTG, Adoulin have epilogue/quests.

Once I hit Mastery Rank 5, I think I can give some de-ranking a shot. I have to do the AF quests for sure. I'm leaving a handful of coffer ones unfinished so I can try to tinker with their value.

Is there a comprehensive list of what counts, or relative value - such as do bard title values matter? Or is all of that up in the air still?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-04-28 10:04:25
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All we have is a basic understanding.

Everything in existence counts. Some stuff counts more than other stuff. Each rank takes more stuff than the last to level up.

That is literally it. That's all we are certain of. With six years of fact finding.

You could find out if the random 4 bard titles count with derank

You could find out if losing ramuh/cait VD title matters or if it stays recorded by deranking

You could find out if abyssea pop KI count by deranking

...You could drop a REMA and get an idea of it's value. Multiple to see if they all count....

Unmerit to see if you can derank
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By Valefor.Philemon 2026-04-28 10:05:59
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You can also choose it as an occasional Bonanza prize.
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By HiPotion 2026-04-28 11:46:54
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Heroic work figuring out that Lycopodium warps matter. Inspired me to actually go around and verify that I've gotten all the Cavernous Maws as well.

Two more addon notes:
* MMM Maze Count is only visible on the Main tab and doesn't have a denominator
* RoE still uses 1100 as a denominator and reports 1094/1100 for me even though I'm missing 1 (1083/1084 by my menu/count). It reports that I'm missing 5 Guild Master's Request RoEs. Spoilering a list of the ones that I have in my settings files. I'm done the Alchemy shield.
Spoiler Alert! Click to view.

I finished vorseals. Things I know of that are left for me:
* Delevel alchemy and get the other guild's titles. @400k everywhere but WW, where I'm @200k GP banked
* A Discerning Eye x99
* Ballista
* Aminon
* 4x Master Trials
* 11x Orchestrion music (goddamned Mog-Tablet)
* Sunshine Seeker event for Adenium Bench
* Another 581 Master Levels
weirdly, completing a shield will mark all shields guildmaster request roes as complete except 4 cooking + 1 woodwork lol, i'll exclude all shields from roe later or find a better solution.
for the extra roes counted try //xic showcompleted and tell me if you see something that shouldnt be there >,< (on latest version)

AeryBahamut said: »
I am trying to track stuff, but I do not use anything (even Windower). I should be closing in on Mastery Rank 5. I saw the posted 'tracker' but it is different from my count in-game on Missions Bastok has 20 missions, 21 entries, and things like Zilart, CoP, WoTG, Adoulin have epilogue/quests.

Once I hit Mastery Rank 5, I think I can give some de-ranking a shot. I have to do the AF quests for sure. I'm leaving a handful of coffer ones unfinished so I can try to tinker with their value.

Is there a comprehensive list of what counts, or relative value - such as do bard title values matter? Or is all of that up in the air still?

bastok should be 22 missions but The Emissary has multiple version so i had it removed
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--[6] = "The Emissary (San d'Oria)",
--[7] = "The Emissary (Windurst)",
--[8] = "The Emissary (San d'Oria)",
--[9] = "The Emissary (Windurst)",



also im thinking about 'visited areas' matter, some zones you might just never visit (selbina mhaura boat actually have 4 instances, 2 normal, 2 pirates)
i only had this idea because some zones didnt unlock their RoE or monstrosity for me until i visited them


*i removed mordion from addon*

Asura.Eiryl said: »
All we have is a basic understanding.

Everything in existence counts. Some stuff counts more than other stuff. Each rank takes more stuff than the last to level up.

That is literally it. That's all we are certain of. With six years of fact finding.

You could find out if the random 4 bard titles count with derank

You could find out if losing ramuh/cait VD title matters or if it stays recorded by deranking

You could find out if abyssea pop KI count by deranking

...You could drop a REMA and get an idea of it's value. Multiple to see if they all count....

Unmerit to see if you can derank

actually im starting to think exp/monexp and KI doesnt count
as in getting Lv99 job mastered counts for the title not for the exp.
or medal of altana counts for the rank not the key ITEM itself.
i have 2100 monster lvls still didnt rank me up
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